I guess factial evidence doesnt pertain to you Cedric. I understand different people have different theories, but I have never met someone who honestly beleives what you just said. Please explain so I can get a better look at how one shooter did this… Dont worry about his CIA connections and false defections. Dont worry about his unmarksman like shooting habbits, or his presense in the break room while the shooting was taking place. Or how he ran to his neighborhood and decided to shoot Tippett, or the 100 or so other facts that make his shooting a complete botched circumstance. I’ll leave all that out and just see what facts you have. Thanks. Time is of no issue. Tell the Warren Commision hi for me.

Times were different back then. CIA was calling shots and wagin their own war on Castro. Did Kennedy ever upset mob bosses and upper CIA intelligence officials? Probably on a dialy basis. They hated Kennedy and his brother, and we are talking 50 years later about what they did to him, because of their hatred.

This assassination set the tone for our government and let it be known that if your not on the same page, it doesnt matter who you are. You will die. LBJ knew exactly what was about to happen. If you ever get borred, read the lost tapes from the whitehouse follwing the assassination. You will think LBJ was the devil reincarnate. These are non-fiction books. They were the real deal. It lets you start figuring things out for yourself.

Look at the Warren commision for starters if you want to know reasons why JFk was killed. Coincidental that people on the investigation board were people the JFK fired for going behind his back in secret attempts on Castro? Thats just a needle in a haystack of facts that magicaly appear about this assassination. Not to detour from the reason Kennedy was killed, but Kennedy was killed for many reasons. Many people in high places wanted him dead and they did. Ever wonder why Tippett was really killed?? Did you know that the way Kennedy was suppose to be shot directly resembled the bullett wounds Officer Tippett recieved? This case is mind boggeling. I suggest everyone do their own research and come to your own conclusion. Its the best we have, and it will let you know that in no way shape or form, Kennedy was shot by one person from the 6th floor book depository. CIA, Mob, black ops, Vice president, FBI, ONI, Secret service. All hands effort that changed the ways of our Countries Government. Obama is president because the (Powers that be) want him there for a good reason. This Country is no joke, and just when you think you got somthing figured out, your wrong.

“We now know that the [Central Intelligence] Agency withheld from the Warren Commission the CIA-Mafia plots to kill Castro. Had the commission known of the plots, it would have followed a different path in its investigation…. Many have told me that the culture of the Agency is one of prevarication and dissimulation and that you cannot trust it or its people. Period. End of story. I am now in that camp.” –Robert Blakey, staff director and chief counsel for the U.S. House Select Committee on Assassinations, statement from 2003

“The dalliance between American intelligence and the Mafia had begun in World War II, at a time when anything seemed justifiable if it helped the war effort. In the United States the Office of Naval Intelligence obtained the help of the Mafia’s then ‘don of dons,’ Lucky Luciano, in preventing German sabotage in American dockyards. Through his close associate Meyer Lansky, Luciano mobilized his network of waterfront thugs accordingly and was rewarded by official leniency for his own past crimes.” –Anthony Summers, Not in Your Lifetime

“If possible, professional criminals will be hired to carry out specific selective ‘jobs’ [assassinations].” –Clandestine Operations Manual for Central America, a training manual written by the CIA

“It’s called in the intelligence lexicon, ‘plausible deniability.’ If they [CIA hired guns] perform actions that might embarrass the United States government, they can be denied [as being under the control of the government].” –William Leary, Merton Coulter Professor of History and winner of the Central Intelligence Agency’s Studies in Intelligence Award, interviewed in the documentary, Air America: The CIA’s Secret Airline

“Speaking of the CIA and FBI, Chief Justice Warren said, ‘They and all other agencies do employ undercover men who are of terrible character.’ Former CIA director Allen Dulles agreed, ‘Terribly bad characters,’ he said.” –Anthony Summers, Not in Your Lifetime, (Warren Commission Executive Session Transcripts, 27 January 1964, p. 163.)

“The agency ‘deals with everything from bottom feeders around the world to their governments on a routine basis.’” –senior U.S. intelligence official, quoted in Time magazine, 3 February 2003

“Sometimes people sort of glaze over about the notion that the Mafia and U.S. intelligence and the anti-Castro activists were involved together in the assassination of President Kennedy. In fact, there’s no contradiction there. Those three groups were all in bed together at the time and had been for several years in the fight to topple Fidel Castro.” –Anthony Summers, journalist and assassination researcher, interviewed by Bill Curtis for the cable TV program, Investigative Reports, September 1991

“One of the Mob’s big bases of operations was in Havana before the revolution, and Fidel [Castro] was cutting all that off … severing the ties with the gambling casinos. The Mob worked shoulder to shoulder with the CIA’s Mongoose people [against Castro], to the point that it became almost indistinguishable as to where the CIA activities stopped and Mob activities started.” –John Stockwell, former CIA officer, interviewed by Frank Morrow for the TV program, Alternative Views, 1989

“The more we looked into it [the JFK assassination], the most productive area of investigation was clearly the CIA — namely, those operatives who had worked with the anti-Castro Cubans.” –Robert Tanenbaum, former Deputy Counsel for the U.S. House Select Committee on Assassinations, interviewed by David Talbot, Brothers: The Hidden History of the Kennedy Years

“The accusations linger. In some minds the suspicions persist of a dark, unsolved conspiracy behind his [JFK's] murder. You can dismiss them, as many of us do, but knowing now what our secret government planned for Castro, the possibility remains: Once we decide that anything goes, anything can come home to haunt us.” –Bill Moyers, for the 1987 documentary, The Secret Government: The Constitution in Crisis

“…the real danger the CIA has always presented — unbridled criminal stupidity, cloaked in a blanket of national security.” –Gary Webb, Dark Alliance

“Now they’re going to find out about Cuba, they’re going to find out about the guns, find out about New Orleans, find out about everything.” –Jack Ruby, Oswald’s assassin, HSCA Report, vol. IX: V, p. 162. (Ruby made this comment to his former employee, Wally Weston who was visting him in jail.)

In order to make a conspiracy work, you don’t need to present evidence. Just repeat factoids that have been done to death a thousand times.
The Magic Bullet, The Grassy Knoll, The Forged Autopsy X-rays, The Mysterious Deaths of Witnesses that ‘knew too much’, The KGB Connection, The Mafia Connection, The Cuban Connection, The Mr Rodgers Connection, The Tippet Murder, etc. etc, etc…….
Repeat the factoids. Forty-plus years is not long enough!
Let’s milk the JFK conspiracies for another forty years.

If you are prepared to buy into one conspiracy, then you are prepared to buy into them all!

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/firearms.htm

Q Does the visual evidence provided by the Zapruda Film support the theory that the assassination involved three shots fired from an elevated position behind the motorcade?
If the answer is yes then we can proceed along the lines of the ‘one assassin theory’. If the answer is no then we proceed along alternate lines. I am not a medical professional, nor am I a ballistician, however I would be interested in any professional opinion.

Yep, if you can believe that the CIA killed JFK then there’s no reason why you can’t believe that Bush engineered 9-11.
If you can believe that Oswald was a patsy then there’s no reason why you can’t beleieve Osama was a patsy.

…questioning a string of events from the escalation of Vietnam…

No, no, no. Why restrict yourself to Vietnam.
Let your paranoia run free.
Liberate your imagination!!!
There are plenty of other conspiracies to sign up to before Vietnam.

For example…
FDR knew in advance about Pearl Harbour.
He let it happen to get the U.S. into the war.
(Sound…familiar?)
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/pearl_harbor.htm

How about Lincoln’s assasination?
Who really did it?
(The Catholic Church, perhaps?)
http://home.att.net/~rjnorton/Lincoln74.html

…my vote is that a CIA agent in the car behind was the shooter for that shot. Oswald hit him with the neck shot. The grassy knoll shooters missed completely or put a shot into the windshield.

Only three assassins at the same time?
Couldn’t you come up with a few extra to make it extra-special super-duper complicated?

Make it more interesting.
Why not add a couple of Mafia characters to the mix?
(You could have them be on the roof above Oswald.)
Or Cubans. Cubans are always good.
(Remember the puff of white smoke.)

This book is disinformation of the same genre as the HSCA

At this point it may not matter who exactly pulled the trigger on the gun that tore through JKFs head, but for those still interested, my vote is that a CIA agent in the car behind was the shooter for that shot. Oswald hit him with the neck shot. The grassy knoll shooters missed completely or put a shot into the windshield. Amazing but the facts are all detailed in “Mortal Error”, the best balastics work on the shooting. JKF was hit by a frangible bullet from behind. This type of round explodes inside the target and causes a hugh exit wound, as was the case. Although the author suggests that it as an error on the part SS agent, I would suggest that it was no error.

The only person who bothered to do any real research on the “mystery” is Gerald Posner, the author of “Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK”

If you haven’t read the book, then you don’t get to comment on who “really” killed JFK.

For furher information as to why normal people get sucked into wacky conspiracy theories, read David Araonovitch’s “Voodoo histories: The Role of Conspiracy Theory In Shaping Modern History”

If you really think that JFK was killed by the Mafia/Cubans/CIA/Ronald MacDonald etc. then there’s no reason why you shouldn’t buy into 9/11, the Protocols of the Elder’s of Zion and faked moon-landings.

As a result of Kennedy’s violent overthrow in 1963, in the ensuing years America suffered:
The ascention of Lyndon B.Johnson to the Presidency
Discontinuation of investigation of LBJ
Escalation of the Vietnam War
Curtailment of Mafia prosecutions by DOJ
Continuation of the Oil Depleation Allowance
Continuation of J.E.Hoover as FBI Director
Escalation of domestic espionage and surveilance
Escalation of racial violence, student unrest, and CIA/FBI/MILITARY sponsored provocations
FBI COINTELPRO
RISE OF THE BLACK POWER MOVEMENT
ASSASSINATIONS OF MALCOLM X,MEDGAR EVERS,MLK,RFK,CHICAGO BLACK PANTHER LEADER FRED HAMPTON, FREEDOM RIDERS
KENT STATE STUDENTS MURDERED BY NATIONAL GUARDSMEN
CIA SPONSORED ASSASSINATION OF FOREIGN LEADERS
ESCALATION OF HEROIN ADDICTION, CRIME, ABORTIONS
URBAN RIOTS
PRISON RIOTS(SAN QUENTIN, SOLEDAD)
DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION -1968
KING RICHARD MILHOUS NIXON as PRESIDENT
WATERGATE, NIXON PARDONED BY FORD
FORD, CARTER, REAGAN, BUSH, CLINTON, BUSH, AS PRESIDENTS
IRANGATE, HOSTAGES, MARINES KILLED,AIDS, WEAPONS OF MASS OBSTRUCTION (bush & cheney), WORLD TRADE CENTER, OSAMA BEN LADEN, SADDAM HUSSIEN, IRAQ WAR, DOMESTIC ESPIONAGE, RESTRICTION OF CIVIL LIBERTIES, UNITED STATES CODE (USC) REWRITTEN-MORE DEATH PENALTY CRIMES ADDED
MILITARY/CIA CONSOLIDATES INTELLIGENCE APPARATUS UNDER DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.

America also does much good in the world and continues to be the most productive nation, as well as the most generous nation, on earth. We must stive to become a consistent nation,instead of the schizophrenic nation that emerges when we look at our history.Granted we are a nation of varied and divergent interests, but we all are Americans. If there is another entity in our midst that is controlling our destiny,then we are not free, and our democracy is a sham.

Prescott Bush
Averill Harriman
John Foster Dulles
Lyndon Johnson
George Bush Sr.
Haroldson L Hunt
Roger Lewis

Here’s a question: why was the president’s convertible top left open in a public setting? No competent bodyguards would have done such a stupid thing. Obviously, there was a conspiracy to render the president vulnerable to attack. This must have come from the CIA, because this is the only institution which could get to the president’s bodyguards.