JFK and Jackie arriving at Love Field, Texas
Lamar Waldron is the author of Ultimate Sacrifice: John and Robert Kennedy, the Plan for a Coup in Cuba, and the Murder of JFK.
- So much has been written about JFK’s assassination–what in your book is new?
A tremendous amount. With the help of almost two dozen people who worked with John and Robert Kennedy–backed up by thousands of documents in the National Archives–we discovered that JFK and his brother had a never-before-revealed plan to stage a coup against Castro on December 1, 1963. The CIA’s code-name for their part of the plan–AMWORLD–has never appeared in print before, and was withheld from the Warren Commission and later Congressional investigating committees. As part of the coup plan, in the days and weeks before Dallas, Robert Kennedy even had a top secret committee making plans for dealing with the possible “assassination of American officials,” in case Castro found out about the coup plan and tried to retaliate.However, the Kennedy’s coup plan was infiltrated by three powerful Mafia bosses being targeted by Attorney General Robert Kennedy: Johnny Rosselli of the Chicago Mafia, Tampa godfather Santo Trafficante, and Carlos Marcello (godfather of Louisiana and east Texas). The Mafia dons used parts of the secret coup plan to try and assassinate JFK first in Chicago (on 11-2-63), then in Tampa (on 11-18-63, an attempt never revealed before), and finally in Dallas. By planting evidence implicating Castro, the mob bosses prevented Robert Kennedy and other key officials from conducting a thorough investigation, in order to protect the coup plan and prevent nuclear confrontation with the Russians.
- While it’s been known since the early 1990s that Robert Kennedy eventually told close associates the Mafia was behind his brother’s death, the book finally explains how the Mafia did it, presenting a huge amount of new information.
- Can you tell us more about these two attempts on JFK’s life just prior to Dallas and their connection to November 22nd?
- As we were told by Chicago Secret Service Agent Abraham Bolden, they had uncovered a plot by four men to kill JFK during his Chicago motorcade planned for November 2, 1963. An ex-Marine (with several recent parallels to Oswald) was arrested, but the four men remained at large. So, JFK had to cancel his motorcade at the last minute, even as people were lining the motorcade route. Pierre Salinger told us about the two different excuses he gave for the cancellation. In addition, Salinger–who began his work for the Kennedys as a Mafia investigator–revealed that Jack Ruby had been in Chicago a week prior to the motorcade, where he had received $7,000 from someone who worked for an associate of Trafficante and Marcello. Salinger’s revelation was confirmed by two eye-witnesses and FBI reports in the National Archives.The Tampa attempt had more than a dozen parallels to JFK’s assassination in Dallas, including a male suspect in his early twenties linked to the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. The Police and Secret Service warned JFK about the threat, but JFK bravely went ahead with the motorcade anyway, because of an important speech about Cuba he had to give in Miami that night, a speech that was part of the coup plan.
- No news reports about the Tampa threat appeared while JFK was alive–just a tiny article the day after this death; by the following day the Tampa Chief of Police and Secret Service weren’t talking to the press about it. On the very day Secret Service Agent Abraham Bolden went to Washington to tell Warren Commission staff about the Tampa and Chicago attempts, and other Secret Service laxity, he was framed by the Chicago Mafia and arrested. He was sent to prison for six years, even though his main accuser later admitted committing perjury against Bolden. The book finally explains exactly who framed Bolden, and why.
- Why did the three Mafia godfathers want to assassinate JFK?
- Because Robert Kennedy was waging the biggest war against organized crime that America has ever seen, and the Mafia families of Chicago, Tampa, and Louisiana were under incredible pressure. Rosselli’s boss was under “lockstep surveillance” by the FBI, and even Trafficante’s family members were being prosecuted. Marcello himself was put on trial by Robert Kennedy’s prosecutors the day before the Chicago attempt. Marcello bribed a key juror to ensure his acquittal, which Marcello timed for 11-22-63, when JFK was shot in Dallas. Marcello had a big celebration that afternoon and the only other known celebration after JFK’s death was in Tampa, were Trafficante publicly toasted JFK’s murder at the very restaurant where JFK had given a speech, just four days earlier.The Kennedys had worked hard to keep the Mafia from having a role in their coup plan, and JFK’s plans for a democratic government in Cuba after the coup would have kept the Mafia from returning to reopen their casinos there. So, the Mafia dons had to kill JFK before December 1, 1963, because only the secrecy surrounding the coup plan could prevent a thorough, public investigation that could have exposed their involvement.
- Walk us through exactly what transpired in Dealy Plaza. Where did the shots come from and who were the shooters?
- Very briefly: There is much evidence that Oswald was in the lunchroom of the Texas School Book Depository at the time of the shooting. Two men were seen behind the fence on the “grassy knoll.” Other witnesses saw two men on the sixth floor of the Depository. Riding in the limo directly behind JFK’s were his two closest Presidential Aides, Dave Powers and Kenneth O’Donnell. As Powers told my co-author Thom Hartmann, both men heard–and Powers saw–shots from the grassy knoll. That explains why JFK’s limo slowed at the sound of the first shot from the front, because they thought they were riding into an ambush. Powers and O’Donnell confirmed the shots from the knoll to former House Speaker Tip O’Neill, who wrote about it in his autobiography, Man of the House. Our book also explains why Powers and O’Donnell were pressured to alter their Warren Commission testimony “for the good of the country,” and which current US Senator was involved with that.
- The book deals with evidence indicating that Mafioso present in Dealy Plaza that day could have included Johnny Rosselli, Chicago Mafia hitman Charles Nicoletti, French assassin Michel Victor Mertz, and a CIA operative working on the Kennedys’ coup plan who was (unknown to the Kennedys) also working for the Mafia.
- As you state in your book, there are many credible witnesses who believe shots were fired from the grassy knoll and it certainly looks on the Zapruder film that Kennedy has been shot from the front, but isn’t the autopsy of President Kennedy proof that the bullet entered the rear of his skull? The entry wound on the back of his head was small, but the exit wound on the right side of his head was nearly six inches.
- Many distinguished experts disagree with what you’ve just stated, including Dr. Cyril Wecht, one of the country’s leading forensic pathologists. Remember that what is visible in the remaining photographs doesn’t sometimes match what is in the surviving x-rays–and there is considerable testimony that photos and x-rays were taken that are not part of the evidence today. Plus, crucial evidence, like JFK’s brain, disappeared once it was in the custody of Robert Kennedy.Entire books have been written about the autopsy, so I won’t try to cover everything here. Suffice it to say that the wound descriptions by the Dallas doctors didn’t sometimes match those of the autopsy physicians at Bethesda, and vice versa. For example, in Dallas the small wound in JFK’s throat was described as an entrance wound. Because they made a neat tracheotomy incision over the wound, the doctors at Bethesda didn’t even realize it was a bullet wound. JFK’s back wound was almost six inches below the base of his neck–making it impossible for a bullet coming down from the steep angle of the sixth floor of the Book Depository to have entered there and emerged many inches higher, from the front of JFK’s throat. (where it would have been heading up, only to have to head down again to hit Gov. Connolly–that’s just one reason the pristine bullet is called the “magic bullet”).
- In addition, new information declassified from the House Select Committee on Assassinations and the JFK Assassination Records Review Board casts further doubt on the Warren Commission theory of JFK’s wounds.
- We present new information in the book, based on interviews with two people at Bethesda during the autopsy, including David Powers, a JFK aide who was also one of the closest eye-witnesses to the assassination.
- Much evidence we cite shows that Robert Kennedy essentially controlled JFK’s autopsy. After the autopsy, control of JFK’s body was turned over to two officials who had been working with Robert Kennedy on covert Cuban operations. Even JFK’s personal physician, Admiral Burkley–the only doctor present in both Dallas and Bethesda–believed JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
- What were Oswald’s actions from the time of the assassination until he was arrested?
- After reviewing all the evidence as part of seventeen years of research, we were stuck by how much of the conventional Warren Commission story is contradicted by other evidence, including earlier statements by many of their key witnesses. Thus, Oswald’s movements from shortly after the assassination until he returned to his rooming house can’t be pinned down with certainty.While Oswald was in his rooming house, a police car pulled up, honked its horn, then pulled away. A short time later, Oswald walked out of the rooming house.
- The Warren Commission says then that Oswald was walking (since he didn’t drive or own a car) on a quiet street, when a patrolman drove up to him. According to the official story, the crazed ex-serviceman pulled out a pistol, shot the patrolman and fled. As our book points out for the first time, that exact scene (involving an ex-serviceman) is in a movie that Johnny Rosselli produced (uncredited, but confirmed by court documents) in 1948, called “He Walked by Night.”
- Oswald next shows up at the Texas Theater, where he was arrested, though again, much evidence contradicts the conventional version of events. We present evidence (including some from secret Warren Commission memos not included in their final report) that Oswald thought he was going to Mexico City, on a “mission” that involved getting into Cuba on a mission in support of upcoming US action against Cuba. The theater was where Oswald had been told he would meet his contact.
- The book presents a huge amount of evidence that Oswald was a low-level asset for a US intelligence agency, and not a communist. For example, the Warren Commission claimed Oswald was a Marxist as teenager, but how many communist teenagers join the Civil Air Patrol? And not only join the US Marines, but try to join before he’s even old enough? We uncovered new information showing that Oswald was under ‘tight” surveillance by Naval Intelligence from the time he returned to the US from Russia. Oswald’s role as an intelligence asset explains why US authorities weren’t concerned when Oswald–a seeming former defector with a Russian wife–got a job in Dallas at a firm that prepared material for maps created from U-2 spy plane photos, at the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis.
- Oswald had been looking for work in Dallas in October of ’63 and found the job at the School Book Depository through a friend of his wife’s. He started work there October 16th. It doesn’t sound like an active plot to kill the President is in place at that time (Kennedy’s motorcade route had not yet been planned) and it also wouldn’t give much time for anyone to set him up as a patsy – creating a bogus sniper’s nest, etc.
- That’s a common misconception. JFK’s long-rumored Dallas visit had finally been announced on Sept. 26–right before Oswald tried to go to Cuba via Mexico City. It was well known by Jack Ruby and others in Dallas that any major motorcade would go through Dealy Plaza along Main Street. It’s not generally known, but 11-22-63 wasn’t the first time JFK had been through Dealy Plaza in a motorcade–JFK had been there in 1960, during the campaign. (Of course, Oswald was in Russia at that time, but Ruby and the Marcello associates he worked for were in Dallas then.)The mob bosses who’d been carefully planning to kill JFK had plenty of time make sure Oswald got a job near the motorcade route. In fact, Oswald applied for several jobs near and along the motorcade route.
- It’s important to note that around the same time Oswald moved to a new city (Dallas, from New Orleans) and got a new job, so did the ex-Marine arrested at the time of the 11/2/63 Chicago attempt against JFK and the young man linked to the Fair Play for Cuba Committee who was investigated by authorities after the 11/18/63 Tampa attempt to assassinate JFK.
- Where does Ruby fit in to all of this? Why would he kill Oswald knowing that he would spend the rest of his life in prison or be sentenced to death?
- Ruby was a long-time Mafia associate who was in desperate financial straits at the time. In addition, the book documents for the first time that Ruby (who ran guns to Cuba) had been part of the 1959 CIA-Mafia plots to kill Castro. Ruby had also been an informant for the FBI at that time–and for other law enforcement agencies later–which would also insure the various agencies couldn’t dig too deeply into Ruby’s background or share key information with those investigating JFK’s assassination. As if to drive the point home to authorities, even the pistol Ruby used to shoot Oswald came from Ruby’s time in the first round of CIA-Mafia plots against Castro.Ruby’s job–in Chicago and probably Tampa, as well as Dallas–was to get a policeman to quickly kill the patsy, since Ruby had numerous friends in law enforcement. Failing to do that, Ruby had to do the job himself, though Congressional (and even Warren Commission) investigators felt he had the help of one or more policemen. One of them let Ruby know when Oswald was heading to the basement, the day he was shot.
- Under Texas’s “sudden passion” murder defense at the time, Ruby could have received as little as five years, and with good behavior, had to serve less than three years. Ruby’s mob-linked lawyer chose not to use that defense, and instead used a bizarre “psycho-motor” defense that had never worked before.
- But once Ruby’s in jail for life, and particularly after his diagnosis of cancer, what would prevent him from telling the truth about his role in the assassination?
- One reason the Jewish Ruby had been able to work with the Mafia for so long was that he’d shown he could keep his mouth shut, even when it came to murder. Robert Kennedy wrote in his book “The Enemy Within” about a Mafia murder in 1939 that was important in forging a link between the Mafia and the Teamsters–and police records show that one of the mobsters who kept his mouth shut about that hit was Jack Ruby. By 1963, Ruby was a long-trusted lower-level mob associate, part of a tight-knit Mafia heroin network that went through Dallas.
- The night before the assassination, Ruby dined at the restaurant of a long-time Marcello associate. After Ruby’s arrest, he was visited by the same Marcello associate. As we cite in the book from Warren Commission testimony, there are indications that the lives of Ruby’s family (sister, brothers, their children) had been threatened, that Ruby had been told they could face death or torture if he didn’t cooperate. One of the Chicago mobsters that framed Abraham Bolden was known for the same type of brutal torture murders that gave Ruby nightmares.
- In addition, it’s been said that for much of the time of Ruby’s incarceration, Dealy Plaza was visible from Ruby’s jail cell in Dallas. That’s the ultimate reminder of what could happen to those who angered the Mafia, even a President. In the same way Ruby’s close connections to hundreds of Dallas police made him valuable to the Mafia, Ruby knew that it would be just as easy for the Mafia to take action against Ruby, even in prison.
- Ruby didn’t have that much time to talk after his sudden diagnosis of cancer. Ruby had received a clean bill of health from a medical exam not long before. As I write in the book “Ruby had been diagnosed with cancer three days after winning a December 7, 1966 appeal for a new trail, to be held in Wichita Falls.” Just over three weeks later, he was dead. By not talking after his cancer diagnosis, Ruby probably felt he had insured the safety of his family.
- Will we ever find a definitive answer to this mystery? Is there anyone alive who was involved and could provide important information?
- The answer to both questions is “yes” and “yes.” NBC News and a government watchdog group, OMB Watch, both reported that well over a million documents remain secret, possibly until the year 2017. Everyone we have uncovered who was knowingly involved in JFK’s death (less than a dozen) is either dead (most of those confessed to associates prior to their death), in prison, or has served time for a crime related to the assassination. With so much still secret, and so much time having passed, further prosecutions for the assassination would be difficult if not impossible. That’s why we recommend a South African-style truth commission about the assassination. They could review and release the vast majority of the million still-secret files, and take testimony from those who were involved.
- We also feel strongly that Abraham Bolden–who had a sterling service record before his arrest and was America’s first black Presidential Secret Service agent– deserves to finally have his name cleared.
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May 5th, 2007 at 5:18 pm
While I appreciate the FOIA work Lamar Waldron and Thom Hartmann have done over the years on their book, and I am interested in what Abraham Bolden has to say, the citing of citing Pierre Salinger and/or Cyril Wecht gives me pause. To somehow lay the veracity of this story on the credibility of either Wecht or Salinger both cheapens and weakens the story.
Pierre Salinger insisted the Navy shot down TWA Flight 800, based on documents he’d found on the Internet, and it took quite a while before he admitted his statements were unfounded and based on weak Internet rumor.
The DC-747 had very real wiring problems and the cause of the explosion of TWA Flight 800 is well-established.
The credibility of Cyril Wecht, who opines on many more celebrity and mass tragedies than any coroner could possibly have time to probe carefully, has long been in question. In the last month, he has been indicted on more than 80 felonies, according to the Pittsburgh Post Gazette.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/0…6049/ 657606.stm
May 5th, 2007 at 6:02 pm
Cyril Wecht’s credibility has long been in question by whom? In fact, he’s long been held in high regard by most of the critics of the official theory.
Wecht’s knowledge of the medical evidence in the JFK is almost without parallel, perhaps only exceeded by the dean of the critics, Harold Weisberg.
Defenders of the official theory have a lot to explain and in serious forums where only facts matter the criticisms Wecht and so many others have accurately made are almost never adequately explained by apologists for the Warren Commission cover up.
One must separate charges about whether or not Wecht misused office resources with his analysis of the JFK case medical evidence. The claims he makes are also asserted by many responsible critics such as Howard Roffman, David R. Wrone, and Harold Weisberg.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
Mis-information and half-truths. didn’t kennedy promise to smash the cia into a million pieces? i dont believe for a second that they worked together on this supposed castro plan. they hated each other.
it was the cia’s plan all along.
they turned it on jfk.
waldron does a disservice to us all by spreading this tripe.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
There is little doubt the mafia was involved in the killing. They were much more powerful forty years ago then they are now and David Ferrie is the link between Oswald and Marcello.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
The fact that Ruby Western Unioned a stripper some money 5 minutes before he shot Oswald makes it impossible that his act was planned.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:07 pm
I have begun to wonder whether the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the Pentagon were among the co-conspirators at the top of the plot. Curtis LeMay has been accused anonymously of taking the atomic bomb code books from all of the SAC bombers before the motorcade. Edwin Landsdale is also a suspect, according to Fletcher Prouty.
May 28th, 2007 at 9:13 pm
While I appreciate the FOIA work Lamar Waldron and Thom Hartmann have done over the years on their book, and I am interested in what Abraham Bolden has to say, the citing of citing Pierre Salinger and/or Cyril Wecht gives me pause. To somehow lay the veracity of this story on the credibility of either Wecht or Salinger both cheapens and weakens the story.
Pierre Salinger insisted the Navy shot down TWA Flight 800, based on documents he’d found on the Internet, and it took quite a while before he admitted his statements were unfounded and based on weak Internet rumor.
The DC-747 had very real wiring problems and the cause of the explosion of TWA Flight 800 is well-established.
The credibility of Cyril Wecht, who opines on many more celebrity and mass tragedies than any coroner could possibly have time to probe carefully, has long been in question. In the last month, he has been indicted on more than 80 felonies, according to the Pittsburgh Post Gazette.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06049/657606.stm
May 28th, 2007 at 9:14 pm
Cyril Wecht’s credibility has long been in question by whom? In fact, he’s long been held in high regard by most of the critics of the official theory.
Wecht’s knowledge of the medical evidence in the JFK is almost without parallel, perhaps only exceeded by the dean of the critics, Harold Weisberg.
Defenders of the official theory have a lot to explain and in serious forums where only facts matter the criticisms Wecht and so many others have accurately made are almost never adequately explained by apologists for the Warren Commission cover up.
One must separate charges about whether or not Wecht misused office resources with his analysis of the JFK case medical evidence. The claims he makes are also asserted by many responsible critics such as Howard Roffman, David R. Wrone, and Harold Weisberg.
August 6th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
The mafia couldnt cover up what LBJ , DQ Hoover,the CIA’s D.A.Phillips, Cabal’s cabal, the NSA’s McGeorge Bundy,Time Life’s Henry Luce from my hometown Richfield, CT. General Lansdale, Arlen Specter, General Willoughly or all the rest did….
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:07 pm
The CIA and Cosa Nostra have long been in bed together,as a means of getting money for black ops and as intel gathering tools. The CIA had the Secret Service stand down in Dallas, as seen on the films, showing the agents being called away from the limo, and then the driver turning and pointing a gun at the exact monent Kennedy is kiled. No wonder Jackie tried to flee that limo: The driver was one of the shooters.
This whole thing was a coup engineered by a cabal including LBJ and many others as well. The USA has been in a state of denial ever since, despite the evidence.
November 23rd, 2007 at 7:30 pm
Pressure your Congressional Representative to bring forth a bill before Congress for the CIA and FBI to release all the files they have in regards to the Kennedy killing. Why should the people of the country not know the truth,
November 25th, 2007 at 3:33 am
FOR AMERICA’S SAKE AND FOR THE SAKE OF THE FREE WORLD THE TRUTH OF JOHN AND ROBERT KENNEDY’S ASSASSINATIONS MUST BE EXPOSED. THE CORRUPTION AND DESTRUCTION TO THE AMERICAN POLITICAL SYSTEM CAUSED BY THESE EVENTS CAN ONLY BE REVERSED WITH FULL EXPOSURE OF THE FACTS AND WITH THOSE GUILTY OF THE MURDERS FINALLY BROUGHT TO JUSTICE.
December 13th, 2007 at 12:03 am
I think that all the political assassinations of the 1960’s were the result of rogue CIA contract agents/mafia. There was, from the 1940’s onward, a close association between the mob and the CIA. It was deeper than what the history books tell us. Certain Mafioso, like Carlos Marcello, Santos Trafficante, Myer Lansky, as well as CIA officials, held over from the OSS days, were tied into various enterprises together. You have to remember that the mob operated on the same principles as the CIA, secret, deadly, and blameless.
It is true that Johnnie Roselli produced a film called “He Walked by Night.” However, the main impetus for the assassination was the CIA’s dissatisfaction with Kennedy’s policies, and the firing of many of the top “old guard,” like Allen Dulles, Charles Cabell, while Mr. Helms, Shackly, Bissell, Myers, Phillips, and Klines carried on, seemingly unaccountable to anyone. The CIA was a bastion of seething contempt for the Kennedy Administration’s policies of peace, integration, and sanity in foreign affairs.
The powerful forces arrayed against Kennedy included the military Joint Chiefs, the Pentagon, The CIA, the FBI, Anti-Castro Cubans, the Mafia, and the John Birch Society, of which many of these people belonged, as well as many southern members of Congress. This many tentacle’d Hydra had access to infinitely more covert assets than Kennedy knew. While Atty. General RFK waged unprecedented war against the MAFIA, and its corrupt influences within the Teamsters, Hollywood, the Garment Industry, and most areas of American life, the MAFIA turned to partners in crime for relief. The CIA people closest to the mob bosses, those working on the Castro assassination plots, also had connections to John Birchers, the Military, Right wing Businessmen, and Anti-Castro Cubans and media assets. The CIA/Military Intelligence nexus could cover up anything in the name of “National Security.” This evolving Hydra plays American people like a Stradivarius, and has been from the time of the “Robber Barons” of the 1900’s, until this present day.
The Kennedy Assassination was not a political statement. It was an exercise in raw power. It told those who would challenge that power that death awaited them. John Kennedy was not a martyr, but a victim of this Giant Hydra. He tried to warn us about it, but we were not as learned as He was about its existence and influence, and the ends to which it would go to achieve its aims. Killing was part of its mission. Death was the business it peddled, as well as the means to exact death on a global scale.
“Executive Action” was a program started under Mr. William Harvey. Kennedy removed Harvey from his post and sent him oversees. Harvey, and many other CIA/MAFIA/CUBANS, never forgave Kennedy for failing to order a second air strike against CASTRO’S air force. They believed this was the crucial contributing factor in their defeat. However, the mission was doomed to failure, as designed. It was a massive attempt to force the United States into open invasion of the tiny island nation. Powerful interests, such as the MAFIA, The United Fruit Company, and certain sugar interests, wanted to regain their lost investments when Castro nationalized everything, and sided with the Soviets(for economic reasons) in the COLD WAR(the CIA war). But Cuba was very much an American Businessmen’s colony, until Castro changed the status quo. It was over CUBA that the CIA and its clients found they could not employ their usual methods of propaganda, misinformation, and bullying, to bring about their desired ends. When Kennedy made a “secret” deal with Khrushchev not to invade Cuba, for removing the Soviets missiles from CUBA, he sealed his death. Of course, He was a nigger lover, and soft on communism. Two things the “right-wing white power structure” refused to allow. Kennedy had to go. There was always “lying” Lyndon B. Johnson, a man known for back room deal making, arm twisting, corruption and links to corrupt and murderous associates. Johnson was facing political death if an investigative committee continued to probe into the activities of BOBBY BAKER. Johnson also was friends with the FBI”S HOOVER, the major Capitol Hill Committee Leaders, and many military right wingers. John F. and Robert F. Kennedy’s New Frontier, with its emphasis on global peace, and a real war on MAFIA criminals, essentially ceased to exist after November 22. 1963.
Following the Kennedy assassination, President Johnson appointed Allen Dulles, and other Intelligence Sources to the Warren [C]omission. Earl Warren’s presence gave the Commission the appearance of judicial oversight and official legitimacy. The Warren commission staff really did seek the truth, but the Commissioners, depended on the FBI and the CIA, did not want to uncover these two powerful group’s dirty laundry. Essentially, The Warren [C]omission was a white-wash.
There now is talk that Kennedy planned to “secretly” invade CUBA and that these plans were so ultra secret that the mafia and anti-Castro Cubans usurped these plans and killed President Kennedy. They tried to kill him beginning in September 8th 1963 in Chicago, November 18th in Tampa, and finally succeeded in Dallas on November 22. I say the mob supplied the triggermen, but the logistics were all CIA, as well as the Cover-ups (Warren, Rockefeller, Church, Hart, HSCA) Johnson signed NSAM 273 authoring escalation of the Vietnam War, with all the social fall out, heroin drug addiction, crime, and 52,000 young American lives wasted. Johnson appointed Hoover Director of the FBI for life, essentially curtailing any investigation into his corrupt dealings. Johnson did not interfere with the CIA, and essentially gave the military carte blanche, and worked to soften the fallout fromthe repeal of the OIL DEPLETION ALLOWANCE for his Texas oilmen who sponosred his rise to power. His GREAT SOCIeTY was a bust due to Vietnam. Johnson died January 22, 1973. Hoover died in 1972, amid that cesspool called Watergate, that toppled King Richard Nixon, the planner of the BAY of Pigs invasion, and staunch Kennedy opponent.
Watergate was just the tip of the iceberg. Because Congress limited the investigation, and Ford pardoned Nixon, Congress did not launch a full scale investigation into political corruption in this country. We cannot count on our public officials OR public institutions to look after our best public interests. Instead, we find “private” interests in a “feeding frenzy” ahead of what is best for America. On November 22, 1963, America died when JFK was publically and brutally murdered. Another piece of our soul died as Martin Luther King, Jr., and Senator Robert Kennedy died in 1968, supposedly killed by “lone nuts.” America is a shell of its former self, emptied of all that John Kennedy dared dream we could be. He was one man that dared to stand up for America. The multi-headed fascist BEAST killed him. We mourn the Kennedys while the BEAST rules us and gets richer at our expense. We are paying the price for not being vigilant with our DEMOCRACY. The FASCISTS have taken control of the world. We all now live under their NEW WORLD ORDER.
The logistics of Kennedy’s murder really don’t matter. He will remain dead. The guns of November saw to that. It is the forces that accomplished the deed, and the continuing cover-up that must be exposed and opposed. We must take Democracy back for our children.
“God work on earth must truly be our own.” –President Kennedy
December 24th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
Although many individuals and groups hated the Kennedys there was only one person who could guarantee a cover up. The Mafia was under siege although it had guaranteed Kennedy’s election. Castro was guaranteed noninterference through Krushchev after the “Missile Crisis.” Without control of the ensuing investigation neither could risk the anger of the American people who would have demanded revenge. The Russians had already achieved dominance at the meeting between Krushchev and Kennedy in Geneva. LBJ was closely linked to corruption and was aware that he and Hoover were slated for retirement. JFK fired McCone, CIA head, after the Bay of Pigs. Thus the stage was set for the murder of JFK and LBJ’s ascension to power and more wealth using Hoover and McCone. There is no other logical conclusion although Johnson dispensed numerous red herrings that carry validity only for true believers that he was innocent.
March 10th, 2008 at 5:33 am
JFK’s killing it happen so many moons ago. Q# Who did it? A# Anyone who had knownledge in advance or a indirect or direct hint of information of the aformentioned deed; whether they’re living or deceased.Matters such as this should have been reported to honest folks. It would take a great deal of forethought/planning and dry runs to execute THE PRESIDENT of THE UNUNITED STATES. We must never confuse facts with theory about a regrettable moment in our history. All suspects involved were in some form or fashion connnected to or directedly linked to the goverment(in god we trust)yet many domainant culture citizens lied, killed, and concealed from the AMERICAN people the whole truth and, nothing but the truth. A moral principaled indiviual would step forward from years of decite, guilt, and no remorse. I pray for our nation, and hope we are a better country now than we were then(wishful).
March 22nd, 2008 at 3:42 pm
The truth of the matter is, all the groups were involved—the CIA, the Mafia, our media, the Warren commission, the military Industrial complex, the vast right wing conspiracy and of course the others, the FBI–the same vast network who is manging to scuttle Hillary now by character assassination the list goes on and on
April 20th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Who killed John Kennedy? Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby and literally dozens more paid the price for the murder and the killer(s) and planners walked away as they did in previous and subsequent assassinations during the decade. I have studied this entire matter for over 37 years now and just to make a list of errors/lies/mistakes in the Warren Commission report would take weeks or months.
My question is this: Why has the so-called mainstream media avoided the topic like the plague now for 45 years? They either ignore it or perpetuate the cover-up. How many man-hours did the media spend “investigating” the murders of Natalee Holloway, the seven year old in Boulder, Colorado, or just about any high-profile death since? Regardless of how tragic or heartbreaking these are, isn’t the murder of a US president in broad daylight with hundreds of witnesses more important to us?
We’ve learned that (most of) our government can’t be trusted, will lie to us at the drop of a hat and invent stories to cover for or perpetuate their lies. When I first began to dig beyond the surface of the JFK assassination, the general feeling of people was “it’s unpatriotic to believe that the government of this country is complicit in the killing of a president or lie to us about it”. How we have changed thanks to Viet Nam, Watergate, Iran-Contra and now Iraq. Is it a stretch to believe we were lied to on 11/22/63? I don’t think so.
Urge your congressman to support a real investigation into the JFK and RFK assassinations. Anyone with a room temperature IQ and a basic knowledge of the major discrepancies knows there were conspiracies. [RFK died from a bullet entering behind his right ear. His accused assassin was always between two and three feet in FRONT of him.... you figure it out.]
We deserve the truth. I had always believed I would learn the truth in my lifetime. I was ten when John Kennedy died. Now, I am making sure my 10 year old son knows the full story of the JFK assassination in the hope that he will one day know the truth. For my generation, time is running out.
May 19th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
chapaken, Beautifully written. One additional fact. Dr. Charles Crenshaw’s mea culpa autobiography of 1992?, the Parkland MD on duty who signed both JFK & L. Oswald’s death certificates, claims JFK was shot from the front and the back of his skull landed on the back of the limo, which is why Jackie was scrambling to recover. He also said the Bethesda body bag was different than the one they put him in in Dallas.
Is it a confirmed fact that RFK orchestrated an autopsy that covered up a frontal assassination? I don’t think so. He was the AG but he didn’t have a team ready to conduct an autopsy who then suggest a cover-up? The MDs in Bethesday who conducted the autospy supposed had never done autopsies…
Someone later one said JFK fired McCone after the Bay of Pigs. Need to do your homework. Who was Director of CIA for 15 years, and whose brother was Sec. of State under Ike? Who lied to JFK about there being no need for air support which JFK would not allow? Who did JFK allow to retire in Sept.1961? Who was appointed by LBJ to be the Exec. Director of the Warren (c) Ommission? Keep in mind how many (C)ommission Commissioners were there (6 including Gerald McBoing Boing Ford).
The newspapers, once they sold their franchise to private interests and gave up consumers — the public, are propaganda instruments for the ruling corporate elite. The internet is not killing newspapers, the controlled, slated, stifled news reporting by the corporate owned propaganda mills have killed themselves but not speaking to public interests. The internet offers citizens an alternative to the world of newspapers. A world that will not improve until it alters its business paradigm and returns to its original client, the citizenry.
Mark Twain, many years ago sized up the situation for readers, “If you don’t read the newspaper you are uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you are misinformed.”
When the ruling elite conduct a coup d’ etat, the public has no alternative but to overthrow that falsely installed government and its leaders. We change America at the ballot box. Not with bullets, but with ballots.
Coming…The Second American Revolution or, in other words, The Calling of a Constitutional Convention as allowed by Article V of the US Constitution. Do you dig, the new peace sign V promotes America’s peaceful revolution, a return to government of the people, by the people and for the people. No where does the Constitution put corporate/business rights over public rights. Democratic governments are run for the benefit of the people, fascist governments are run for the benefit of business/military interests. You know, the people who promote war…Thomas Pleasure copyright 2008
June 28th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
I have no doubt in my mind that JFK, RFK, and Mlk were murdered by this goverment. We are currently living under the New World Order of the ruling elite. America died on 11-22-63. Ballots and voting are pointless, the ruling elite have control over both parties. Whether you vote for McCain or Obama it does not matter, the agenda of the New World Order will still come to pass. Regular Americans can still get rich in business, sports, entertainment, and other enterprising endeavors, but power, influence and politics will remain in the clutches of the ruling elite. If you stop and think about it, it is pretty simple. The leaders involved in the killings of the 60’s had kids, all of their kids went to private school’s together for the most part no outsiders just them. They went on to Harvard and Yale and Princeton, where they joined groups(secret societies) graduated from college became lawyers, politicians, and businessmen. They are close knit, with little understanding of the struggles of average everyday people. They tell us anything, who cares. As long as they stay rich and powerful and in control of the goverment. They only compete with each other for prominent positions. Occasionally they use trusted outsiders they respect a little(Obama)however even Obama is A Harvard graduate who impressed the right people.
July 16th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
A core problem of the thesis of this book is that the Mafia wanted invasion of Cuba as it had formerly many assets there,and the CIA had begun to hate JFK even more after he withheld air support for the Bay of Pigs following which he sacked General Caswell as Director,his brother being the Mayor of Dallas.
The second weakness is that the Mafia could in no wise have influenced the Warren Commission to come up with such nonsense as the magic bullet theory and to cover up the conspiracy, so it was in fact a Black Op using Mafia support through Jack Ruby, and some Mafia shooters. To get underneath all this and find out and prove which political figures were part of the cover-up leads us to who was behind the Black OP or if it was merely a rogue faction, asking the question could a rogue faction have hoped to get away with it and so again pointing to political involvement.
The new evidence over Tampa is however interesting
July 16th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
JFK had of course made a promise to the Soviets that he wouldn’t invade Cuba, so he was ready to risk another nuclear confrontation on Dec 1st was he…….having been seen by many as having wisely resisted immense Pentagon pressures for invasion by the NAVAL blockade…
Lamar writes “By planting evidence implicating Castro, the mob bosses prevented Robert Kennedy and other key officials from conducting a thorough investigation, in order to protect the coup plan and prevent nuclear confrontation with the Russians”
SO WHY WASN’T THIS TRUE FOR JFK???THE THESIS COLLAPSES
October 1st, 2008 at 5:17 am
EDITED:
Nixon was involved, during his VP, with orginizing elements of the Cuban exile community to get rid of Castro. Connections to those groups remained in ‘63. He had mob links, re: Bebe Rebozo for one. He came up the hard way. There was no love lost between him and the silver spooned Kennedys.
LBJ’s impending corruption scandal made him a political liability. He was going to be dumped from the ‘64 ticket. LBJ had survived and flourished in the cutthroat politics of Washington for decades. He coveted the Presidency. He would, and did do just about anything to keep and gain power. He was very adept at keeping it once he had it. He, like Nixon, came up the hard way.
Hoover held politically damaging secrets about the Kennedy’s. He was a hindrance to AG RFK’s passionate prosecution of the mob. His mandatory retirement at 70 would have allowed JFK to name one of the best and brightest FBI director. Hoover had spent his entire life building and running the FBI. He would have done just about anything to prevent handing it over to the hated Kennedys.
The CIA used the Mafia and it’s connections inside Cuba in it’s attempts to get rid of Castro. Any hit team attempting to assassinate Castro in Cuba would have to be Cuban: most likely trained, armed and financed by the CIA. The mob would have local control of any teams inside Cuba, with supervision by the CIA.
After Kennedy fired most of the old guard CIA and ordered the stand down of the anti Castro groups, there remained intact a cocked gun – The CIA trained assassin teams: ready to be used, with no target and little supervision.
The rest is easy.
November 7th, 2008 at 6:40 am
The truth surrounding the assassination of JFK is a jigsaw.But thanks to the relentless efforts of people like Jim Garrison,Hartman & Waldron & others over the years most of the pieces have now been turned face up.It’s now plain to see that there WAS indeed a conspiracy’ orchestrated at the highest level,also that the Warren (C)ommision was a farce and under different circumstances would have been laughable.Maybe we will never get to see all the pieces but the overall picture is plain enough.
In January 2009 America will embrace,probably it’s most radical President since JFK (Barack Obama),his polices on global warming ,Iraq,the economic downturn and US taxes put him and his family in great danger.160 million US voters have given Obama THE OPPORTUNITY to help change this world we live in for the better.I only hope that the web of corruption,lies and treachery that existed within US corridors of power in 1963, and for many subsequent years, has diminished enough to give him THE CHANCE.
January 7th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
The JFK affair has nothing to do with neither Cuba nor the USSR nor Marilyn Monroe. Kennedy was killed because he was about to reveil something. Something that we are not, as a Society, quite ready to face yet…being consumed, as we are now, in our day-to-day, our politics, recession, never ending wars…etc. But maybe one day…
January 22nd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
President’s are controlled by those around them. When its time for them to go, they go. Some via an election, some in other ways. And all of this under the guise of democracy. I guess it beats a dictatorship, but now knowing you can fully trust your government — should you really need to — is an unsettling feeling at the very least.
January 22nd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
My apolgies for the typos. Here is a somewhat corrected version.
Presidents are controlled by those around them. When its time for them to go, they go; some via an election, some in other ways. And all of this under the guise of democracy. I guess it beats a dictatorship, but not knowing you can fully trust your government — should you really need to — is an unsettling feeling at the very least.
January 25th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
It is very obvious that Oswald was killed by Ruby to shut him up. The Mafia was involved, mainly because of Bobby Kennedy, and the CIA. I was an Engineer for many years, and I found out that these kind of odds point to the facts. It is not that important who actually fire the shots, but who set it up and wanted Kennedy dead.
January 26th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Wake up and accept it: Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK, acting alone. No help from anyone, no sinister plot, no government involvement, no mafia connections, nothing. No conspiracy, just a lonely pathetic excuse for a human being trying desperately to be something in life rather that the loser he was. Unfortunately, his killing of JFK just made him that much more of a loser.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:41 am
I agree because this guy had no help from anyone really people just try and make it harder for them to decide… The investigators are better than that you know.
February 8th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Waldron suggests 2017 as the “release date” for about one million still classified pages re the assasination. Being in “disgustingly good health” @ age 70, it’s possible that my relative health will last another eight-plus years. Will the new information change the basic facts? I doubt it, but I’m constantly wrong. That said of course there were
“perps” other than Lee Oswald and his out-moded Mannlicher-Carcano. What of it? Of course it was a Mafia-CIA “hit.” The same question presents.
In the subseuent 45+ years an FDR-created US Middle-Class [to which I cling precariously] has drunk deeply from Pres. Reagan’s “Shining City On The Hill” mythology. The USA has been unrecognizably pillaged by Pres. Eisenhower’s Military-Industrial-Congressional Complex [Ike was persuaded to eliminate "congressional" from his farewell speech, don'tchya know?].
Now a popular, young, Kennedyesque president may be debating with himself RE his Bailout Package: Play the game or GO OVER THE HEADS OF THE CONGRESSIONAL PINHEADS OF “OUR ONLY PARTY AND SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. As did both FDR and Ronald Reagan.
In my opinion, with so very little left for the Casino Junkies to steal, the new president’s decision is far more important to my kids and my grandkid than the million mouldering pages documenting a crime of my long past youth.
My hopes are high, as Gov. Jerry Brown put it. My expectations are low. Bon chance.
March 1st, 2009 at 4:35 pm
The Mafia are the most patriotic people in America. None of them would have killed JFK or RFK, no matter what kind of conflicts they were having. Plus, in spite of their tremendous wealth, they’re in no position to orchestrate a hit of this magnitude. (I’m not associated with the Mafia, nor am I Sicilian).
Here’s a question: why was the president’s convertible top left open in a public setting? No competent bodyguards would have done such a stupid thing. Obviously, there was a conspiracy to render the president vulnerable to attack. This must have come from the CIA, because this is the only institution which could get to the president’s bodyguards.
March 5th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Michael Collins Piper’s FINAL JUDGEMENT seems more likely to tell the truth since it is the most suppressed.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
All that was written above was probably true – in spades! But JFK was about to tell the world ( don’t laugh ) about the city on the dark side of the moon, and the retrieval of the ufo and alien bodies at Roswell. Right, Yves?
April 1st, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Shortly after April 17, 1961, the following men sat together in a Texas mansion south of Dallas and plotted, planned and gave the green light for the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy.
Prescott Bush
Averill Harriman
John Foster Dulles
Lyndon Johnson
George Bush Sr.
Haroldson L Hunt
Roger Lewis
April 9th, 2009 at 6:25 am
Even if lamar is right and the mafia killed JFK, can he prove us that someone else did not use the mafia to advance its own agenda?
April 16th, 2009 at 10:12 am
I have had an interest in the Kennedy assasination for many years, and have read a variety of different books about the subject, including Gaeton Fonzi’s Last Investigation, Mark Lane’s Plausible Denial, to name a few. I am currently half way through Ultimate Sacrifice. In all my reading of the subject, the CIA and Mafia connections come up constantly, as well as the anti-Castro Cubans. All three groups had their own reasons for hating Kennedy, and wanting him eliminated. I have always felt that Kennedy was killed by the combined effort of the Mafia, roque CIA and anti-Castro operatives.
April 20th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
This book looks absolutely ridiculous.
There was no second gunman behind the grassy knoll or anywhere at Dealey Plaza. The “entry wound on Kennedy’s neck, appears to be an entry would because the tight collar of his shirt(the bullet went right through the knot in his tie) didn’t let the skin rip far apart. it’s a fact, it happens, look it up.
If there were so many other suspects in Dealey plaza of a second gunman why have none ever been found, or ever been credibly proved to being a second gunman.
Oswald did ACT alone in assassinating JFK, but it is highly unlikely that he wasn’t influenced by mainly the mafia, and possibly by somebody who paired with his pro-castro, communist beliefs.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
For the sake of historical accuracy, President Kennedy fired (allowed him to retire) Allen Dulles after the Bay of Pigs, as well as Charles Cabell, whose brother Earl, was mayor of Dallas, Texas, at the time of Kennedy’s assassination.
Kennedy was killed at the behest of the mob and was given approval for the hit by the CIA/FBI/Miltiary hierarchy, all controlled by right-wing cold warriors with ties to the military-industrial-congressional-mafia hydra.
Mafia mechanics executed the President in Dealy Plaza, beneath the cold, hateful, uncaring gaze of H.L.Hunt, whose office was a bee hive of activity immediately before and after the assassination of John F. Kennedy. After the assassination,Hunt was secreted out of Dallas under the aegis of J.E.Hoover.
As a result of Kennedy’s violent overthrow in 1963, in the ensuing years America suffered:
The ascention of Lyndon B.Johnson to the Presidency
Discontinuation of investigation of LBJ
Escalation of the Vietnam War
Curtailment of Mafia prosecutions by DOJ
Continuation of the Oil Depleation Allowance
Continuation of J.E.Hoover as FBI Director
Escalation of domestic espionage and surveilance
Escalation of racial violence, student unrest, and CIA/FBI/MILITARY sponsored provocations
FBI COINTELPRO
RISE OF THE BLACK POWER MOVEMENT
ASSASSINATIONS OF MALCOLM X,MEDGAR EVERS,MLK,RFK,CHICAGO BLACK PANTHER LEADER FRED HAMPTON, FREEDOM RIDERS
KENT STATE STUDENTS MURDERED BY NATIONAL GUARDSMEN
CIA SPONSORED ASSASSINATION OF FOREIGN LEADERS
ESCALATION OF HEROIN ADDICTION, CRIME, ABORTIONS
URBAN RIOTS
PRISON RIOTS(SAN QUENTIN, SOLEDAD)
DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION -1968
KING RICHARD MILHOUS NIXON as PRESIDENT
WATERGATE, NIXON PARDONED BY FORD
FORD, CARTER, REAGAN, BUSH, CLINTON, BUSH, AS PRESIDENTS
IRANGATE, HOSTAGES, MARINES KILLED,AIDS, WEAPONS OF MASS OBSTRUCTION (bush & cheney), WORLD TRADE CENTER, OSAMA BEN LADEN, SADDAM HUSSIEN, IRAQ WAR, DOMESTIC ESPIONAGE, RESTRICTION OF CIVIL LIBERTIES, UNITED STATES CODE (USC) REWRITTEN-MORE DEATH PENALTY CRIMES ADDED
MILITARY/CIA CONSOLIDATES INTELLIGENCE APPARATUS UNDER DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.
America also does much good in the world and continues to be the most productive nation, as well as the most generous nation, on earth. We must stive to become a consistent nation,instead of the schizophrenic nation that emerges when we look at our history.Granted we are a nation of varied and divergent interests, but we all are Americans. If there is another entity in our midst that is controlling our destiny,then we are not free, and our democracy is a sham.
June 7th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Just as 9/11 and the truth behind it will never be fully known, neither will the assassination of President Kennedy.
However, due to the persistence of all the dedicated people who have been relentlessly digging for the truth have gotten closer to reveling it, we can see more clearly just how our government has lied to us.
What I personally find interesting is how in the beginning, anyone who dared questioned the official report were labeled conspiracy theorist, where now those same people are becoming more receptive, and they too are now questioning the so called official Warren Commission report.
June 7th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Conspiracy Theory always brings out the crazies.
JFK was killed by a lone, white gun-nut.
Why is that hard to understad
The only person who bothered to do any real research on the “mystery” is Gerald Posner, the author of “Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK”
If you haven’t read the book, then you don’t get to comment on who “really” killed JFK.
For furher information as to why normal people get sucked into wacky conspiracy theories, read David Araonovitch’s “Voodoo histories: The Role of Conspiracy Theory In Shaping Modern History”
If you really think that JFK was killed by the Mafia/Cubans/CIA/Ronald MacDonald etc. then there’s no reason why you shouldn’t buy into 9/11, the Protocols of the Elder’s of Zion and faked moon-landings.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
We may never know the whole truth about JFK’s assassination. What we do know, however, is that the government lied to us. Faith was lost, and this loss of faith gave rise to questioning a string of events from the escalation of Vietnam to the killing of RFK and MLK, the standdown on 9-11 and the invasion of Iraq based on false pretenses. This country has been in the grip of the military-industrial-criminal complex since the end of WWII when that complex was formed. The plan was to protect the interests of the capitalists and the criminals from the likes of FDR and the socialists. So far the plan has worked fairly well. Obama may be a slight blip in the plan, but so far he has played along fairly well, giving billions to the tycoons on Wall Street.
At this point it may not matter who exactly pulled the trigger on the gun that tore through JKFs head, but for those still interested, my vote is that a CIA agent in the car behind was the shooter for that shot. Oswald hit him with the neck shot. The grassy knoll shooters missed completely or put a shot into the windshield. Amazing but the facts are all detailed in “Mortal Error”, the best balastics work on the shooting. JKF was hit by a frangible bullet from behind. This type of round explodes inside the target and causes a hugh exit wound, as was the case. Although the author suggests that it as an error on the part SS agent, I would suggest that it was no error.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
As well as collapsing as described above- the preposterous secret plan to invade Cuba-the Mafia could in no way have controlled the autopsy which was clearly fixed and the corpse doctored to seek to show 2 shots hiting JFK from behind,completely contradicted by experienced doctors in Parkland who saw gunshot wounds very regularly…whereas Boswell Hume and Finke were woking unde clear military orders.
This book is disinformation of the same genre as the HSCA
July 8th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Faith was lost, and this loss of faith gave rise to questioning a string of events from the escalation of Vietnam to the killing of RFK and MLK, the standdown on 9-11
Yep, if you can believe that the CIA killed JFK then there’s no reason why you can’t believe that Bush engineered 9-11.
If you can believe that Oswald was a patsy then there’s no reason why you can’t beleieve Osama was a patsy.
…questioning a string of events from the escalation of Vietnam…
No, no, no. Why restrict yourself to Vietnam.
Let your paranoia run free.
Liberate your imagination!!!
There are plenty of other conspiracies to sign up to before Vietnam.
For example…
FDR knew in advance about Pearl Harbour.
He let it happen to get the U.S. into the war.
(Sound…familiar?)
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/pearl_harbor.htm
How about Lincoln’s assasination?
Who really did it?
(The Catholic Church, perhaps?)
http://home.att.net/~rjnorton/Lincoln74.html
…my vote is that a CIA agent in the car behind was the shooter for that shot. Oswald hit him with the neck shot. The grassy knoll shooters missed completely or put a shot into the windshield.
Only three assassins at the same time?
Couldn’t you come up with a few extra to make it extra-special super-duper complicated?
Make it more interesting.
Why not add a couple of Mafia characters to the mix?
(You could have them be on the roof above Oswald.)
Or Cubans. Cubans are always good.
(Remember the puff of white smoke.)
July 16th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Anyone who really thinks Oswald acted alone needs to take their head out of the sand. It is just showing complete red necked ignorance or plain boorish stupidity to ignore the very credible and factual evidence to the contrary. In the first instance the weapon Oswald supposedly is to have used was simply not up to the job. End of story ! this fact alone is evidence enough that it was NOT possible for him to have done it. How convenient was it was that he was killed by a known mafia associate before he could face trial.
July 19th, 2009 at 1:37 am
If we deal with facts I suspect we will at least solve part of the mystery.
Q Does the visual evidence provided by the Zapruda Film support the theory that the assassination involved three shots fired from an elevated position behind the motorcade?
If the answer is yes then we can proceed along the lines of the ‘one assassin theory’. If the answer is no then we proceed along alternate lines. I am not a medical professional, nor am I a ballistician, however I would be interested in any professional opinion.
July 24th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Anyone who really thinks Osama Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11 needs to take their head out of the sand. It is just showing complete red necked ignorance or plain boorish stupidity to ignore the very credible and factual evidence to the contrary. In the first instance, the planes loaded with jet fuel that supposedly crashed into the Twin Towers were simply not up to the job. End of story ! this fact alone is evidence enough that it was NOT possible for him to have done it. How convenient was it was that all Air Force combat patrols were stood down on the very day the hi-jackings supposedly happened and that all supposed hijackers were supposedly killed before they could face trial.
[Sarcasm Ends]
In order to make a conspiracy work, you don’t need to present evidence. Just repeat factoids that have been done to death a thousand times.
The Magic Bullet, The Grassy Knoll, The Forged Autopsy X-rays, The Mysterious Deaths of Witnesses that ‘knew too much’, The KGB Connection, The Mafia Connection, The Cuban Connection, The Mr Rodgers Connection, The Tippet Murder, etc. etc, etc…….
Repeat the factoids. Forty-plus years is not long enough!
Let’s milk the JFK conspiracies for another forty years.
If you are prepared to buy into one conspiracy, then you are prepared to buy into them all!
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/firearms.htm
August 8th, 2009 at 10:41 am
The mafia did it? That’s almost like saying “The Butler Did it.” This idiots do not even know that it is called M.A.F.I.A. a terrorist organization that chased the British occupation forces from Sicily in the eleventh century.
The FBI raids organized gangs in northern cities like New York, Philadelphia and Chicago where are are a lot of Italian and other European immigrants. Then they announce to the world that they broke up the mafia. They don’t break up those good old cracker gangsters in the South because they can’t say those country boys are the mafia. The Florida Attorney General arrested the whole sheriff’s department of Okaloosa County for running an organized crime family. He is charging them under the RICO act. They FBI wasn’t there. They were not interested.
I can prove this book is bullcrap with two good old American names. William D. Pawley and Dan Rather. Now if these two idiots are experts on the assasination they know what I am talkinmg about. All of us all guys know.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:48 am
Nope your all Dead Wrong, Jackie pulled the trigger and if she didn’t do it one would shoot her from the best spot, opposite side of the Grassy Knoll, the Shooter from the Grass Knoll didn’t kill him, it was Jackie because white smoke doesn’t come from a bullet impact, But it does come from a gun barrel, obviously some frames was cut out and edited, my friend is ExNSA and he claims to have some never before seen Evidence, God I hope that is the evidence. This is pluton1um!
October 11th, 2009 at 12:12 am
There’s some good and many truly pathetic blogs here. But it comes with the territory when discussing JFK’s murder. I would just like to mention a few things. “Chapaken” accuses “many southern congressmen” of being in on killing. Does he not know that Tip O’Neil, and the Catholic bishop who was telling JFK what the pope wanted done, along with many LIBERAL people (Ben Bradley-Washington newspaper power), many people north of Dixie wanted JFK dead. He printed hundreds of millions of dollars without paying the FED a penny-ALL the so-called Kennedy Bucks were retreived after his death. The FED, CIA, LBJ, on and on it goes. I’m amazed that he lasted as long as he did. He also told the pope that he would not break his promise to America and let the pope make his decisions. Add this all up, add even more that we don’t know about and BOOM! No one alive today will live long enough to find out the total truth. That’s all I’m saying.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:50 am
Mario, the mob runs cities in the whole country, not just in the north. Who ran New Orleans? Florida? Texas? Kansas City? The mob had been protected by Gay Edgar Whoher by claiming there was no such thing as “organized crime” in America! It was only after his blood(add anything else u want here)sucking leech died that the mob really started suffering. But, being slick, they intergrated themselves into the government and now they have a legit “front” to cover their activities. The Rothschild family runs the central banks in all the nations that have central control FED setups. They and their partners, many who have day jobs in D.C., are in charge to a degree. But, bottom line is the 13 families, plus a larger # of other powerful, 2nd tier clans run the whole planet thru groups like the U.N., WHO, WTO, IMF, etc.. Ike warned us of the military-industrial-complex having too much power in D.C., and JFK told his military chiefs that the VietNamese people were going to have to fight for their freedom, if they wanted it. One thousand “advisors” were coming home by end of ‘63 by JFK’s decision. Pentagon said they made error in earlier report they were forced to come out with by JFK about not needing as many men as were in VN on Friday, 11-22-63. On Monday, 11-25-63, a REVISED paper was quietly released to press saying they had made mistake in thinking they didn’t need X # of men in VN. On that Monday, they said they needed tens of thousands troops to stem the tide!!! They made an error, then they realized they had made an error in saying they made the error and now the truth was they needed more and more men and material. I volunteered, wanting to spread democracy. When I got to VN, found out ugly truth. Now, I’m a pacifist. My Old Navy sweatpants were made in… Viet Nam!?!? Sorry, got carried away there, but this nation should tell whoever wants to send our young men & women to kill other people and to die if they have to in carrying out “policy” to send your own kids, and refuse to kill others for Enron, Exxon, Haliburton, and the likes of Dick Cheny.
November 24th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Good afternoon Guys.
First and foremost,I just want to say that none of us know, or will ever know the true facts of this assassination. Plaine and simple, so dont act like you do, cause your only lying to yourself.
What we do know, is that in November, 1963, the most well planned, maliscious, geniusly orchestrated murder occured in Dallas, Tx. How do I know?? Because its 2010 and these mobsters and currupt roque elements of our goverment covered up the murder of our Countries Commander in Chief, and we still cant figure it out. Now thats a well planned conspiracy at every level. Everything is botched and happened for a reason.
If you do know anything about this case, and take passion in studing it, you most certainly know that the president was not shot from the 6th floor by some groomed CIA intelligence agent named Lee Harvey Oswald. He was murdered by more than one shooter, and everything was staged for a reason. Bay of Pigs. Bobby and organized crime. Castro. Just keep it simple! Stick with what we do know. The president was assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. An event that was thought out to confuse us for a 100 yrs, and its doing a damn good job of it. It angers me too. I want to know. Will never happen though. not in this lifetime. At least if your smart enough and know our goverment can murder someone, then you have peace of mind. I know the grand scheme of what happened that day, and for people to say the mob, or anyone else had nothing to do with it, your full of it.
December 5th, 2009 at 7:59 am
“In 1975 a Senate committee headed by Frank Church found that the [Central Intelligence] Agency had planned a number of assassination operations, using everything from poison to machine guns and sometimes mob hit men” –Jim Garrison, On the Trail of the Assassins
“We now know that the [Central Intelligence] Agency withheld from the Warren Commission the CIA-Mafia plots to kill Castro. Had the commission known of the plots, it would have followed a different path in its investigation…. Many have told me that the culture of the Agency is one of prevarication and dissimulation and that you cannot trust it or its people. Period. End of story. I am now in that camp.” –Robert Blakey, staff director and chief counsel for the U.S. House Select Committee on Assassinations, statement from 2003
“The dalliance between American intelligence and the Mafia had begun in World War II, at a time when anything seemed justifiable if it helped the war effort. In the United States the Office of Naval Intelligence obtained the help of the Mafia’s then ‘don of dons,’ Lucky Luciano, in preventing German sabotage in American dockyards. Through his close associate Meyer Lansky, Luciano mobilized his network of waterfront thugs accordingly and was rewarded by official leniency for his own past crimes.” –Anthony Summers, Not in Your Lifetime
“If possible, professional criminals will be hired to carry out specific selective ‘jobs’ [assassinations].” –Clandestine Operations Manual for Central America, a training manual written by the CIA
“It’s called in the intelligence lexicon, ‘plausible deniability.’ If they [CIA hired guns] perform actions that might embarrass the United States government, they can be denied [as being under the control of the government].” –William Leary, Merton Coulter Professor of History and winner of the Central Intelligence Agency’s Studies in Intelligence Award, interviewed in the documentary, Air America: The CIA’s Secret Airline
“Speaking of the CIA and FBI, Chief Justice Warren said, ‘They and all other agencies do employ undercover men who are of terrible character.’ Former CIA director Allen Dulles agreed, ‘Terribly bad characters,’ he said.” –Anthony Summers, Not in Your Lifetime, (Warren Commission Executive Session Transcripts, 27 January 1964, p. 163.)
“The agency ‘deals with everything from bottom feeders around the world to their governments on a routine basis.’” –senior U.S. intelligence official, quoted in Time magazine, 3 February 2003
“Sometimes people sort of glaze over about the notion that the Mafia and U.S. intelligence and the anti-Castro activists were involved together in the assassination of President Kennedy. In fact, there’s no contradiction there. Those three groups were all in bed together at the time and had been for several years in the fight to topple Fidel Castro.” –Anthony Summers, journalist and assassination researcher, interviewed by Bill Curtis for the cable TV program, Investigative Reports, September 1991
“One of the Mob’s big bases of operations was in Havana before the revolution, and Fidel [Castro] was cutting all that off … severing the ties with the gambling casinos. The Mob worked shoulder to shoulder with the CIA’s Mongoose people [against Castro], to the point that it became almost indistinguishable as to where the CIA activities stopped and Mob activities started.” –John Stockwell, former CIA officer, interviewed by Frank Morrow for the TV program, Alternative Views, 1989
“The more we looked into it [the JFK assassination], the most productive area of investigation was clearly the CIA — namely, those operatives who had worked with the anti-Castro Cubans.” –Robert Tanenbaum, former Deputy Counsel for the U.S. House Select Committee on Assassinations, interviewed by David Talbot, Brothers: The Hidden History of the Kennedy Years
“The accusations linger. In some minds the suspicions persist of a dark, unsolved conspiracy behind his [JFK's] murder. You can dismiss them, as many of us do, but knowing now what our secret government planned for Castro, the possibility remains: Once we decide that anything goes, anything can come home to haunt us.” –Bill Moyers, for the 1987 documentary, The Secret Government: The Constitution in Crisis
“…the real danger the CIA has always presented — unbridled criminal stupidity, cloaked in a blanket of national security.” –Gary Webb, Dark Alliance
“Now they’re going to find out about Cuba, they’re going to find out about the guns, find out about New Orleans, find out about everything.” –Jack Ruby, Oswald’s assassin, HSCA Report, vol. IX: V, p. 162. (Ruby made this comment to his former employee, Wally Weston who was visting him in jail.)
December 8th, 2009 at 8:22 am
marcello paid eighty five thousand for that job . handed over three days later to a cut out
December 8th, 2009 at 8:28 am
the rifles were mausers which had been aquired three weeks before for another job but used for this one instead
December 8th, 2009 at 8:33 am
may kennedy’s soul rest in peace and may god forgive all
December 8th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
do you know why he was killed no name?
December 8th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Multiple reasons Scooper…This murder plot was at the highest level of our countries government. There were many reasons involved. They shouldnt over-shaddow the gross assassination of him that incorporated hundreds maybe even thousands of individuals.
Times were different back then. CIA was calling shots and wagin their own war on Castro. Did Kennedy ever upset mob bosses and upper CIA intelligence officials? Probably on a dialy basis. They hated Kennedy and his brother, and we are talking 50 years later about what they did to him, because of their hatred.
This assassination set the tone for our government and let it be known that if your not on the same page, it doesnt matter who you are. You will die. LBJ knew exactly what was about to happen. If you ever get borred, read the lost tapes from the whitehouse follwing the assassination. You will think LBJ was the devil reincarnate. These are non-fiction books. They were the real deal. It lets you start figuring things out for yourself.
Look at the Warren commision for starters if you want to know reasons why JFk was killed. Coincidental that people on the investigation board were people the JFK fired for going behind his back in secret attempts on Castro? Thats just a needle in a haystack of facts that magicaly appear about this assassination. Not to detour from the reason Kennedy was killed, but Kennedy was killed for many reasons. Many people in high places wanted him dead and they did. Ever wonder why Tippett was really killed?? Did you know that the way Kennedy was suppose to be shot directly resembled the bullett wounds Officer Tippett recieved? This case is mind boggeling. I suggest everyone do their own research and come to your own conclusion. Its the best we have, and it will let you know that in no way shape or form, Kennedy was shot by one person from the 6th floor book depository. CIA, Mob, black ops, Vice president, FBI, ONI, Secret service. All hands effort that changed the ways of our Countries Government. Obama is president because the (Powers that be) want him there for a good reason. This Country is no joke, and just when you think you got somthing figured out, your wrong.
December 8th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
“Conspiracy Theory always brings out the crazies.
JFK was killed by a lone, white gun-nut.
Why is that hard to understand?”
I guess factial evidence doesnt pertain to you Cedric. I understand different people have different theories, but I have never met someone who honestly beleives what you just said. Please explain so I can get a better look at how one shooter did this… Dont worry about his CIA connections and false defections. Dont worry about his unmarksman like shooting habbits, or his presense in the break room while the shooting was taking place. Or how he ran to his neighborhood and decided to shoot Tippett, or the 100 or so other facts that make his shooting a complete botched circumstance. I’ll leave all that out and just see what facts you have. Thanks. Time is of no issue. Tell the Warren Commision hi for me.
December 9th, 2009 at 5:23 am
the rifles were sourced by a cia technician ,it was not his normal job ,cant rember his name .
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:39 am
I think big foot killed him.yeahh