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> <channel><title>Comments on: The Help by Kathryn Stockett</title> <atom:link href="http://calitreview.com/2526/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://calitreview.com/2526</link> <description>An arts and culture magazine.</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:21:58 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Larry</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-211275</link> <dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:28:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-211275</guid> <description>The book The Help is in real need of help. Kathry Stockett could have done a better job with The Help only if she had spent some time among the African American people of Charleston or Beaufort SC or maybe even Savannah Ga. In other words, what she wrote was nowhere close to the dialect of the &quot;Colored&quot; folks of the 1950&#039;s or 60&#039;s.
She needed an editor with &quot;geechee&quot; roots if she wanted to speak the language of the old South and to write a book about it.  The real book for example should have included writting similar to the following: da book bees ok, but E ain&#039;t nut&#039;n close ta da real ting.
The above example was not taken from The Help, but its written to show how most of the maids would have spoken during this time of poorly paid servitude.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The book The Help is in real need of help. Kathry Stockett could have done a better job with The Help only if she had spent some time among the African American people of Charleston or Beaufort SC or maybe even Savannah Ga. In other words, what she wrote was nowhere close to the dialect of the &#8220;Colored&#8221; folks of the 1950&#8242;s or 60&#8242;s.</p><p>She needed an editor with &#8220;geechee&#8221; roots if she wanted to speak the language of the old South and to write a book about it.  The real book for example should have included writting similar to the following: da book bees ok, but E ain&#8217;t nut&#8217;n close ta da real ting.</p><p>The above example was not taken from The Help, but its written to show how most of the maids would have spoken during this time of poorly paid servitude.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nettie</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-189649</link> <dc:creator>Nettie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:14:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-189649</guid> <description>What I find most appalling is the intellectual snobbery espoused by almost every commenter (kudos to the others, though).
And I can&#039;t help but comment on the snob near the beginning who made jabs about the author&#039;s use of &quot;alright&quot;, while spelling &quot;consistent&quot; as &quot;consistant&quot;. The irony is rich, almost as rich as the snobbery oozing forth from so many here. (Level of education does not reflect one&#039;s intelligence, nor does it cure a small mind.)
The book was well-written and was a good, though-provoking, moving read. Period. And it does accurately portray the dialect of many Southerners— a yankee who claims to have spent a few years living in the South has no ability to accurately assess our richly varied dialect(s), and sounds foolish doing so.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find most appalling is the intellectual snobbery espoused by almost every commenter (kudos to the others, though).<br
/> And I can&#8217;t help but comment on the snob near the beginning who made jabs about the author&#8217;s use of &#8220;alright&#8221;, while spelling &#8220;consistent&#8221; as &#8220;consistant&#8221;. The irony is rich, almost as rich as the snobbery oozing forth from so many here. (Level of education does not reflect one&#8217;s intelligence, nor does it cure a small mind.)<br
/> The book was well-written and was a good, though-provoking, moving read. Period. And it does accurately portray the dialect of many Southerners— a yankee who claims to have spent a few years living in the South has no ability to accurately assess our richly varied dialect(s), and sounds foolish doing so.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: celine</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-186565</link> <dc:creator>celine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 16:56:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-186565</guid> <description>i had a friend who moved to the south in the era of the book. she was appalled at the wages paid. she offered to pay her help two or three times the going rate. the woman refused the money saying it would mark her and cause her to be ostracized.  she told me the black &quot;help (both men AND women) were not treated nicely at all. she and her husband lasted a year and then, quickly, moved back north.
i loved the book. i read it for what &quot;it was&quot;. not for verbiage, spelling, speech or whatever. the naysayers need to &quot;get a life&quot;. why oh why cannot you admit the blacks were been treated very very shabbily &quot;back then&quot;?
read the book for what it is. a commentary of how superior some white folks think they were then. perhaps still. i have one question: do you all think heaven is segregated? end of commentary here.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i had a friend who moved to the south in the era of the book. she was appalled at the wages paid. she offered to pay her help two or three times the going rate. the woman refused the money saying it would mark her and cause her to be ostracized.  she told me the black &#8220;help (both men AND women) were not treated nicely at all. she and her husband lasted a year and then, quickly, moved back north.</p><p>i loved the book. i read it for what &#8220;it was&#8221;. not for verbiage, spelling, speech or whatever. the naysayers need to &#8220;get a life&#8221;. why oh why cannot you admit the blacks were been treated very very shabbily &#8220;back then&#8221;?</p><p>read the book for what it is. a commentary of how superior some white folks think they were then. perhaps still. i have one question: do you all think heaven is segregated? end of commentary here.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Onyx</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-184010</link> <dc:creator>Onyx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 03:01:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-184010</guid> <description>The Help controversy wasn&#039;t simply that the African American characters had a thick dialect, but that the white characters were practically devoid of one.
Skeeter, Hilly, Stuart, and the like spoke as if they were from the North in many of the scenes. But what Stockett did isn&#039;t anything new. Many white writers, in an attempt to show how races differ use dialect to achieve this.
The problem occurs when the minority character winds up being a comedic foil because their language skills read so poorly.
In many sections of The Help, that&#039;s what happens with the maids.
Stockett admitted she intended to put &quot;different&quot; voices on the page in this interview:
&quot;My mother and stepmother speak very properly. I really enjoyed putting two very different voices on the page together. I don’t think I’d be capable of writing it any differently.&quot;
http://www.atlantamagazine.com/books/Story.aspx?id=1271657
At least the audio version of the book and the film don&#039;t have the white characters devoid of a regional accent (which would sound rather strange on screen). For example, Hilly screams &quot;You are FARD&quot; at Minny.
The other problem isn&#039;t just how the black characters say things, but what they say. The movie faces the same criticism the book did, with characters uttering stereotypical lines like this:
&quot;Minny don&#039;t burn no chicken&quot; and &quot;Fried chicken tend to make you feel better about life&quot; &quot;You is kind, you is smart, you is im-po-tent&quot;
It&#039;s throwback dialogue. Lines similar to Prissy&#039;s &quot;I don&#039;t know nothing about birthin&#039; no babies&quot; or TV&#039;s &quot;What you talking &#039;bout Willis?&quot;
When blacks are saddled with this type of cringe worthy dialogue and dialect, it harkens back to the days of Amos n&#039; Andy, where these beloved caricatures of African Americans were also sworn to be &quot;authentic&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Help controversy wasn&#8217;t simply that the African American characters had a thick dialect, but that the white characters were practically devoid of one.</p><p>Skeeter, Hilly, Stuart, and the like spoke as if they were from the North in many of the scenes. But what Stockett did isn&#8217;t anything new. Many white writers, in an attempt to show how races differ use dialect to achieve this.</p><p>The problem occurs when the minority character winds up being a comedic foil because their language skills read so poorly.</p><p>In many sections of The Help, that&#8217;s what happens with the maids.</p><p>Stockett admitted she intended to put &#8220;different&#8221; voices on the page in this interview:</p><p>&#8220;My mother and stepmother speak very properly. I really enjoyed putting two very different voices on the page together. I don’t think I’d be capable of writing it any differently.&#8221;</p><p><a
href="http://www.atlantamagazine.com/books/Story.aspx?id=1271657" rel="nofollow">http://www.atlantamagazine.com/books/Story.aspx?id=1271657</a></p><p>At least the audio version of the book and the film don&#8217;t have the white characters devoid of a regional accent (which would sound rather strange on screen). For example, Hilly screams &#8220;You are FARD&#8221; at Minny.</p><p>The other problem isn&#8217;t just how the black characters say things, but what they say. The movie faces the same criticism the book did, with characters uttering stereotypical lines like this:</p><p>&#8220;Minny don&#8217;t burn no chicken&#8221; and &#8220;Fried chicken tend to make you feel better about life&#8221; &#8220;You is kind, you is smart, you is im-po-tent&#8221;</p><p>It&#8217;s throwback dialogue. Lines similar to Prissy&#8217;s &#8220;I don&#8217;t know nothing about birthin&#8217; no babies&#8221; or TV&#8217;s &#8220;What you talking &#8217;bout Willis?&#8221;</p><p>When blacks are saddled with this type of cringe worthy dialogue and dialect, it harkens back to the days of Amos n&#8217; Andy, where these beloved caricatures of African Americans were also sworn to be &#8220;authentic&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bob</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-177296</link> <dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:29:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-177296</guid> <description>I enjoyed the book very much.  I am tempted to accept the opinions of the people that grew up in the South during that period as the most valid. I was born in 1930 in Los Angeles, CA and raised there.  My family was more or less in the socio/economic class depicted here. I would say that the relationships shown here between the white women and our &quot;colored&quot; help was right on.  The accent used in the book was a little stronger that that used by our help but was still true to my memory.  I have long since learned that people who have lived through certain times very often know things about those times that others trying to look backwards from today do not. As a matter of such detail I would like to comment on Cheryl&#039;s mentioning the blue eyes in the photo and how that could not have been as color photography had not yet been invented.  I have &quot;color&quot; photos of myself at age three through five and one of my grandmother. It was very common in those days to have  photos of family members &quot;colorised&quot;. This was done by hand and came out looking very realistic. They didn&#039;t look painted at all.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed the book very much.  I am tempted to accept the opinions of the people that grew up in the South during that period as the most valid. I was born in 1930 in Los Angeles, CA and raised there.  My family was more or less in the socio/economic class depicted here. I would say that the relationships shown here between the white women and our &#8220;colored&#8221; help was right on.  The accent used in the book was a little stronger that that used by our help but was still true to my memory.  I have long since learned that people who have lived through certain times very often know things about those times that others trying to look backwards from today do not. As a matter of such detail I would like to comment on Cheryl&#8217;s mentioning the blue eyes in the photo and how that could not have been as color photography had not yet been invented.  I have &#8220;color&#8221; photos of myself at age three through five and one of my grandmother. It was very common in those days to have  photos of family members &#8220;colorised&#8221;. This was done by hand and came out looking very realistic. They didn&#8217;t look painted at all.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bee</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-175480</link> <dc:creator>Bee</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:53:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-175480</guid> <description>Most of the website reviews I&#039;ve seen for this novel seem to focus on a debate as to whether or not the author is...., I guess &quot;qualified&quot; would be the word, to write a work of fiction in which she creates a voice for two main characters who are black maids of the 60&#039;s, when she herself is not black, or a maid, etc.. Whether she was qualified or not, I enjoyed this book. Of course, I also really enjoyed &quot;Watership Down&quot;, even though author Richard Adams is not, and never was, a rabbit.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the website reviews I&#8217;ve seen for this novel seem to focus on a debate as to whether or not the author is&#8230;., I guess &#8220;qualified&#8221; would be the word, to write a work of fiction in which she creates a voice for two main characters who are black maids of the 60&#8242;s, when she herself is not black, or a maid, etc.. Whether she was qualified or not, I enjoyed this book. Of course, I also really enjoyed &#8220;Watership Down&#8221;, even though author Richard Adams is not, and never was, a rabbit.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Pam</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-175145</link> <dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:33:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-175145</guid> <description>Some of you people obviously did NOT grow up in the deep South during the 60&#039;s. I am white and I did. I heard the accent and the movie portrayed it accurately (still lingers in some - just heard it today). I&#039;ve heard the mispronounced words, among blacks and whites, both. When I grew up not a white or black person I knew said &quot;fornication&quot; correctly. They all said &quot;forniFIcation.&quot; I&#039;ve seen so much of what was portrayed in the movie with the exception of the rich elites because I never knew any.
My parents told me that coffee would stunt your growth. Should short people be offended by that?
It&#039;s ironic to read in this column that some of you who are black would be offended by the movie (didn&#039;t read the book yet...only commenting on the movie) because when we left I told my husband that my white parents (in their 80&#039;s) would be very offended by that movie because they would refuse to believe that whites treated black people that way. Every point didn&#039;t have to be exactly accurate nor completely free of demeaning comments about white or black for the point to be made. I cried at this movie just like I do every time I visit our local civil rights museum because I know how mistreated the blacks were treated.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you people obviously did NOT grow up in the deep South during the 60&#8242;s. I am white and I did. I heard the accent and the movie portrayed it accurately (still lingers in some &#8211; just heard it today). I&#8217;ve heard the mispronounced words, among blacks and whites, both. When I grew up not a white or black person I knew said &#8220;fornication&#8221; correctly. They all said &#8220;forniFIcation.&#8221; I&#8217;ve seen so much of what was portrayed in the movie with the exception of the rich elites because I never knew any.</p><p>My parents told me that coffee would stunt your growth. Should short people be offended by that?</p><p>It&#8217;s ironic to read in this column that some of you who are black would be offended by the movie (didn&#8217;t read the book yet&#8230;only commenting on the movie) because when we left I told my husband that my white parents (in their 80&#8242;s) would be very offended by that movie because they would refuse to believe that whites treated black people that way. Every point didn&#8217;t have to be exactly accurate nor completely free of demeaning comments about white or black for the point to be made. I cried at this movie just like I do every time I visit our local civil rights museum because I know how mistreated the blacks were treated.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ozzi</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-174046</link> <dc:creator>Ozzi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 18:49:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-174046</guid> <description>Then I guess Harriet Beecher Stowe, Mark Twain, and Harper Lee should have kept their mouths shut and found another occupation.
Some people should just stay away from FICTION.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then I guess Harriet Beecher Stowe, Mark Twain, and Harper Lee should have kept their mouths shut and found another occupation.</p><p>Some people should just stay away from FICTION.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PhyLinda</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-172646</link> <dc:creator>PhyLinda</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 09:08:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-172646</guid> <description>PhyLinda says
July 29, 2011
I haven&#039;t read the book, but I was at the Theater this pass Wed, at the NAACP event. I saw the movie, and I lOVED IT. I didn&#039;t get a chance to stay for the Q&amp;A; sorry about that.I don&#039;t know who wrote the screenplay, but I wondered why you weren&#039;t there to take a bow as the book writer before the movie started. Again, I take my hat off to you, I enjoyed every minute of it. I&#039;m a book, and screenplay writer myself. I wish you all the success in the world, and God bless.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PhyLinda says<br
/> July 29, 2011<br
/> I haven&#8217;t read the book, but I was at the Theater this pass Wed, at the NAACP event. I saw the movie, and I lOVED IT. I didn&#8217;t get a chance to stay for the Q&amp;A; sorry about that.I don&#8217;t know who wrote the screenplay, but I wondered why you weren&#8217;t there to take a bow as the book writer before the movie started. Again, I take my hat off to you, I enjoyed every minute of it. I&#8217;m a book, and screenplay writer myself. I wish you all the success in the world, and God bless.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: onyx</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-163295</link> <dc:creator>onyx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:42:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-163295</guid> <description>For those who want more proof that Stockett&#039;s novel (unwittingly I believe) contains demeaning and repeated tales that some bigots used as a means to block equality and integration, I&#039;ve provided links, pictures and excerpts on this post:
http://acriticalreviewofthehelp.wordpress.com/2011/06/18/demeaning-ideology-in-the-help/
It&#039;s important to understand Stockett putting this ideology in the mouths of her black characters is nothing new. There have been other celebrated literary novels where white authors took on a black voice and created characters who either expressed a self loathing against their race (The Confessions of Nat Turner, by Pulitzer prize winner William Styron) and used the image of the large, dark, thick dialected black character as either a docile, loyal follower of the main white protag (Imitation of Life by Fannie Hurst&#039;s character of Delilah) or the sassy, mouthy, grumpy maid whose comedic quips endear him/her to readers with their blunt observations, sometimes aimed at their own culture (Mammy from Gone With The Wind. In the Help that character is Minny)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who want more proof that Stockett&#8217;s novel (unwittingly I believe) contains demeaning and repeated tales that some bigots used as a means to block equality and integration, I&#8217;ve provided links, pictures and excerpts on this post:</p><p><a
href="http://acriticalreviewofthehelp.wordpress.com/2011/06/18/demeaning-ideology-in-the-help/" rel="nofollow">http://acriticalreviewofthehelp.wordpress.com/2011/06/18/demeaning-ideology-in-the-help/</a></p><p>It&#8217;s important to understand Stockett putting this ideology in the mouths of her black characters is nothing new. There have been other celebrated literary novels where white authors took on a black voice and created characters who either expressed a self loathing against their race (The Confessions of Nat Turner, by Pulitzer prize winner William Styron) and used the image of the large, dark, thick dialected black character as either a docile, loyal follower of the main white protag (Imitation of Life by Fannie Hurst&#8217;s character of Delilah) or the sassy, mouthy, grumpy maid whose comedic quips endear him/her to readers with their blunt observations, sometimes aimed at their own culture (Mammy from Gone With The Wind. In the Help that character is Minny)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: onyx</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-163225</link> <dc:creator>onyx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 07:11:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-163225</guid> <description>The Help is a book of insults. It contains repeated, cruel slurs that were used against African Americans during segregation dressed up as amusing anecdotes.
It&#039;s important for readers, particularly African American readers to know this, lest they get embarassed when professing admiration for a novel that has far too many negative myths that were excuses used to block integration and equality.
One major example:
Blacks having diseases.
While Kathryn Stockett has Hilly stating this in the novel, the author also uses Aibileen and Minny to resurrect this slur, as on Pg 23 both women discuss Aibileen&#039;s &quot;ability&quot; to cast a venereal disease on a woman named Cocoa.
The &quot;cootchie spoilt as a rotten oyster&quot; was not only offensive, but touches upon additional negative innuedo spread about blacks during the dark days of bigotry, that we not only carried diseases but in particular venereal disease.
When Aibileen responds with &quot;You saying people think I got the black magic?&quot;
Yet another often used slur. The reasoning was that blacks, no matter what faith we professed would always revert back to &quot;black magic&quot;. Also note that Aibileen is supposed to be a devout Christian. She should be offended by peoples assumptions, however she appears enthralled by the possibility, thus showing how backwards both she and Minny are, causing the reader to chuckle. Which is what Stockett did when she took her show on the road and read Minny&#039;s part in a &quot;pseudo&quot; black voice (video on You Tube).
A few other myths the book includes are the &quot;no account&quot; black males being absentee fathers. Again Stockett uses her black characters to resurrect these slights. Minny states &quot;Plenty of black men leave their families behind like trash in a dump. . .&quot; which is an uncalled for sociological opinion, and one that showed Stockett was playing favorites. No white male lead character is called anything similar. Not even Stuart, who treats Skeeter shabbily. Or Constantine&#039;s father, who has several bi-racial children out of wedlock with her mother.
These males are given a pass even though they practiced segregation. Stockett makes a point to add a twist, telling the readers that either &quot;he&#039;s too honest&quot; (speaking of her father, Carlton Phelan) or &quot;he is a good man&quot; (speaking of Stuart) even Senator Stoolie Whitworth is given a pass, as Stockett portrays him as a conflicted man only doing the will of his constiuents, while he&#039;s really a closet liberal.
No such &quot;twists&quot; are granted to the black males like Connor (absentee father who beds and abandons Constantine) or Minny&#039;s father, who like Clyde, Aibileen&#039;s ex is called &quot;no account&quot; and then there&#039;s the brute character, Leroy, who Stockett uses to show just how slow of mind the character is when he utters the line &quot;You don&#039;t get tired, not till the tenth month&quot; to his pregnant wife Minny, even though this is their sixth child.
And speaking of children, while Minny&#039;s daughter Kindra is only five when the novel begins, Stockett plays favorites even with the littlest members of her book. Kindra is the &quot;bratty black kid with attitude&quot; as Minny hollers and unfairly brands her youngest child. Even Aibileen, who makes it her mission to instill positive affirmations in Mae Mobley has no scenes where she coddles or nurtures Minny&#039;s youngest, and that&#039;s a shame since Kindra is between a rock and a hard place (her sharp tongued mother and abusive father)
And while Minny is an abused woman, because she&#039;s the &quot;sassy&quot; maid stereotype, she behaves contrary to all known medical data on someone subjected to almost daily physical violence, even enlisted to protect Celia, with a knife no less, while carrying her sixth child.
Non fiction books which do a far better job than The Help with less caricature and real testimonials are &quot;The Warmth of Other Suns&quot; by Isabelle Wilkerson and &quot;At the Dark End of The Street&quot; by Danielle McGuire.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Help is a book of insults. It contains repeated, cruel slurs that were used against African Americans during segregation dressed up as amusing anecdotes.</p><p>It&#8217;s important for readers, particularly African American readers to know this, lest they get embarassed when professing admiration for a novel that has far too many negative myths that were excuses used to block integration and equality.</p><p>One major example:<br
/> Blacks having diseases.<br
/> While Kathryn Stockett has Hilly stating this in the novel, the author also uses Aibileen and Minny to resurrect this slur, as on Pg 23 both women discuss Aibileen&#8217;s &#8220;ability&#8221; to cast a venereal disease on a woman named Cocoa.</p><p>The &#8220;cootchie spoilt as a rotten oyster&#8221; was not only offensive, but touches upon additional negative innuedo spread about blacks during the dark days of bigotry, that we not only carried diseases but in particular venereal disease.</p><p>When Aibileen responds with &#8220;You saying people think I got the black magic?&#8221;</p><p>Yet another often used slur. The reasoning was that blacks, no matter what faith we professed would always revert back to &#8220;black magic&#8221;. Also note that Aibileen is supposed to be a devout Christian. She should be offended by peoples assumptions, however she appears enthralled by the possibility, thus showing how backwards both she and Minny are, causing the reader to chuckle. Which is what Stockett did when she took her show on the road and read Minny&#8217;s part in a &#8220;pseudo&#8221; black voice (video on You Tube).</p><p>A few other myths the book includes are the &#8220;no account&#8221; black males being absentee fathers. Again Stockett uses her black characters to resurrect these slights. Minny states &#8220;Plenty of black men leave their families behind like trash in a dump. . .&#8221; which is an uncalled for sociological opinion, and one that showed Stockett was playing favorites. No white male lead character is called anything similar. Not even Stuart, who treats Skeeter shabbily. Or Constantine&#8217;s father, who has several bi-racial children out of wedlock with her mother.</p><p>These males are given a pass even though they practiced segregation. Stockett makes a point to add a twist, telling the readers that either &#8220;he&#8217;s too honest&#8221; (speaking of her father, Carlton Phelan) or &#8220;he is a good man&#8221; (speaking of Stuart) even Senator Stoolie Whitworth is given a pass, as Stockett portrays him as a conflicted man only doing the will of his constiuents, while he&#8217;s really a closet liberal.</p><p>No such &#8220;twists&#8221; are granted to the black males like Connor (absentee father who beds and abandons Constantine) or Minny&#8217;s father, who like Clyde, Aibileen&#8217;s ex is called &#8220;no account&#8221; and then there&#8217;s the brute character, Leroy, who Stockett uses to show just how slow of mind the character is when he utters the line &#8220;You don&#8217;t get tired, not till the tenth month&#8221; to his pregnant wife Minny, even though this is their sixth child.</p><p>And speaking of children, while Minny&#8217;s daughter Kindra is only five when the novel begins, Stockett plays favorites even with the littlest members of her book. Kindra is the &#8220;bratty black kid with attitude&#8221; as Minny hollers and unfairly brands her youngest child. Even Aibileen, who makes it her mission to instill positive affirmations in Mae Mobley has no scenes where she coddles or nurtures Minny&#8217;s youngest, and that&#8217;s a shame since Kindra is between a rock and a hard place (her sharp tongued mother and abusive father)</p><p>And while Minny is an abused woman, because she&#8217;s the &#8220;sassy&#8221; maid stereotype, she behaves contrary to all known medical data on someone subjected to almost daily physical violence, even enlisted to protect Celia, with a knife no less, while carrying her sixth child.</p><p>Non fiction books which do a far better job than The Help with less caricature and real testimonials are &#8220;The Warmth of Other Suns&#8221; by Isabelle Wilkerson and &#8220;At the Dark End of The Street&#8221; by Danielle McGuire.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: LISA-MARIE</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-163008</link> <dc:creator>LISA-MARIE</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:21:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-163008</guid> <description>I just completed this novel and I must say that I LOVED it. As an African-American woman, age 29, I believe that it was a great read and I have recommended it to many. I believe that many of you are tearing this author apart, and it is unfair. Throughout this novel, may she have left some things out, yes. Did she cover every issue that she could dealing with the segregation of black and the dealing with whites, no. What she did do was touch on what she knew. I must say she did a great job. After reading the book it makes me want to read more nonfiction to get more accurate accounts of what went in during that time. I applaud this author. Not only for the great work but the courage to publish this piece. When I read the book she does not paint a pretty picture of white folks. She does not make them seem better than anyone else. If you really read this novel you would see that African Americans are depicted as the heros in the story. The stronger ones, the more intelligent ones. Again I applaud her for this work. How many authors convey the ignorance, the selfishness, and the lack of identity to white people?
I think that while many of us are looking at the words that are written on paper we fail to recognize some of the underlying concepts. On person mentioned the tragic death of the son. Did you ever stop to think that the tragic death was Abileens motivation to write, and to share what she wrote?
Please take a step back and stop being so negative.
I must add that while many people feel that this novel was stereotypic, I must say AGAIN...if you read the book, not only the words, comprehended the book, you would see that black people were not depicted in a stereotypical way, but a way that you see your mother, your grandmother and sometimes yourself... Loving, Caring, Determined, Honest, Loyal, and above ALL, Great women.
I loved this novel, will recommend it to all.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just completed this novel and I must say that I LOVED it. As an African-American woman, age 29, I believe that it was a great read and I have recommended it to many. I believe that many of you are tearing this author apart, and it is unfair. Throughout this novel, may she have left some things out, yes. Did she cover every issue that she could dealing with the segregation of black and the dealing with whites, no. What she did do was touch on what she knew. I must say she did a great job. After reading the book it makes me want to read more nonfiction to get more accurate accounts of what went in during that time. I applaud this author. Not only for the great work but the courage to publish this piece. When I read the book she does not paint a pretty picture of white folks. She does not make them seem better than anyone else. If you really read this novel you would see that African Americans are depicted as the heros in the story. The stronger ones, the more intelligent ones. Again I applaud her for this work. How many authors convey the ignorance, the selfishness, and the lack of identity to white people?<br
/> I think that while many of us are looking at the words that are written on paper we fail to recognize some of the underlying concepts. On person mentioned the tragic death of the son. Did you ever stop to think that the tragic death was Abileens motivation to write, and to share what she wrote?<br
/> Please take a step back and stop being so negative.<br
/> I must add that while many people feel that this novel was stereotypic, I must say AGAIN&#8230;if you read the book, not only the words, comprehended the book, you would see that black people were not depicted in a stereotypical way, but a way that you see your mother, your grandmother and sometimes yourself&#8230; Loving, Caring, Determined, Honest, Loyal, and above ALL, Great women.<br
/> I loved this novel, will recommend it to all.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jrt</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-160198</link> <dc:creator>jrt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 03:32:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-160198</guid> <description>I think some of the people posting on here ought to be ashamed of themselves. This is a person&#039;s very first book! I&#039;ll tell you what I got out of it. Love. That&#039;s right. Love. And I&#039;m not telling if I&#039;m black or white, raised in the South or not. Where I WAS raised was in foster homes. I did not have a mother.  I did not have a maid. I did not have a grandmother. And I most certainly never had anyone tell me I was smart. Or I was kind. Or I was important. When I read about Aibileen and Mae Mo iit made me cry. How I wish I would&#039;ve had someone, anyone, tell me those things.  When I got to the parts of Aibileen&#039;s loving words I never once thought &#039;Oh she&#039;s a black maid, or Oh sheks a priveleged white child&#039; what I did was close my eyes and imagine Aibileen telling ME these things. I could have cared less what color or position or relationship to me Aibileen had. I loved this book because it made me feel comforted. Comforted by Aibileen&#039;s love, comforted by Minnie being brave enough to talk back to her employers, comforted by Minnie having the courage to finally leave her abusive husband, comforted by Skeeter having the courage to get these women&#039;s voices out there regardless of her own cconsequences as she could&#039;ve been killed too. It is fiction and I don&#039;t care if it was based on fact. And one of the things I particularly liked was it was women helping other women. I loved it and I long for the day when NO ONE sees color or economic standing. I long for the day when we women lift each other up no matter what and encourage each other. So instead of picking apart another woman&#039;s very first book, who she thought no one would read, maybe instead of ragging on Ms. Stockett we should say &#039;good job on writing your very first book. And whether we like it or not, Ms. Stockett YOU are important&#039;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some of the people posting on here ought to be ashamed of themselves. This is a person&#8217;s very first book! I&#8217;ll tell you what I got out of it. Love. That&#8217;s right. Love. And I&#8217;m not telling if I&#8217;m black or white, raised in the South or not. Where I WAS raised was in foster homes. I did not have a mother.  I did not have a maid. I did not have a grandmother. And I most certainly never had anyone tell me I was smart. Or I was kind. Or I was important. When I read about Aibileen and Mae Mo iit made me cry. How I wish I would&#8217;ve had someone, anyone, tell me those things.  When I got to the parts of Aibileen&#8217;s loving words I never once thought &#8216;Oh she&#8217;s a black maid, or Oh sheks a priveleged white child&#8217; what I did was close my eyes and imagine Aibileen telling ME these things. I could have cared less what color or position or relationship to me Aibileen had. I loved this book because it made me feel comforted. Comforted by Aibileen&#8217;s love, comforted by Minnie being brave enough to talk back to her employers, comforted by Minnie having the courage to finally leave her abusive husband, comforted by Skeeter having the courage to get these women&#8217;s voices out there regardless of her own cconsequences as she could&#8217;ve been killed too. It is fiction and I don&#8217;t care if it was based on fact. And one of the things I particularly liked was it was women helping other women. I loved it and I long for the day when NO ONE sees color or economic standing. I long for the day when we women lift each other up no matter what and encourage each other. So instead of picking apart another woman&#8217;s very first book, who she thought no one would read, maybe instead of ragging on Ms. Stockett we should say &#8216;good job on writing your very first book. And whether we like it or not, Ms. Stockett YOU are important&#8217;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Abby</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-158755</link> <dc:creator>Abby</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 21:41:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-158755</guid> <description>I just loved this book The Help. One of the best I have read in a long long time. Yes it is a page turner and so proud that Kathryn Stockett gave us this opportunity to have been able to see how Maids were really treated...
Thank you Thank you Thank you...
Looking forward to the movie... Yeah!!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just loved this book The Help. One of the best I have read in a long long time. Yes it is a page turner and so proud that Kathryn Stockett gave us this opportunity to have been able to see how Maids were really treated&#8230;<br
/> Thank you Thank you Thank you&#8230;</p><p>Looking forward to the movie&#8230; Yeah!!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Angela</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-156185</link> <dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 15:36:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-156185</guid> <description>I&#039;m one of the few people who did not like this book. Not only did the clumsy use of dialect bother me (white Southerners also have distinctive speech patterns; surely black maids with some education would have had better grammer) but I also was offended by the presentation of most of the maids as endlessly noble, forgiving, kind and long suffering, essential to their ditzy and inadequate employers (the book could have been subtitled &#039;White Women Can&#039;t Cope.&#039;) Why? Do black people have to be paragons before they can be equal to whites? Only Minny had a mixture of good and not-so-good characteristics. Aibleen&#039;s son, who was killed in an industrial accident, was a genius who was writing a book. Would his death have been any less sad if he was a not-so-genius? Perhaps this depiction of black characters is meant to be kind, but I found it stereotyped, serving to continue to show blacs as &#039;the Other.&#039;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of the few people who did not like this book. Not only did the clumsy use of dialect bother me (white Southerners also have distinctive speech patterns; surely black maids with some education would have had better grammer) but I also was offended by the presentation of most of the maids as endlessly noble, forgiving, kind and long suffering, essential to their ditzy and inadequate employers (the book could have been subtitled &#8216;White Women Can&#8217;t Cope.&#8217;) Why? Do black people have to be paragons before they can be equal to whites? Only Minny had a mixture of good and not-so-good characteristics. Aibleen&#8217;s son, who was killed in an industrial accident, was a genius who was writing a book. Would his death have been any less sad if he was a not-so-genius? Perhaps this depiction of black characters is meant to be kind, but I found it stereotyped, serving to continue to show blacs as &#8216;the Other.&#8217;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Unver</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-154736</link> <dc:creator>Unver</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 11:52:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-154736</guid> <description>I personally enjoyed the book very much, though I recognise why some commentators take issue with it. As regards the issue of dialect, however, I do think some of the comments above are a little unfair. Minny&#039;s sections are nowhere near as &#039;non-standard&#039; as Aibileen&#039;s, while even Skeeter&#039;s contain many colloquialisms and Southernisms. In other words, it isn&#039;t as clear-cut a divide as some of the criticisms above have suggested. And while it is true that the Southern accent cuts across race, it would be naive to pretend that a black maid in the &#039;60s would not sound palpably different from her white employers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally enjoyed the book very much, though I recognise why some commentators take issue with it. As regards the issue of dialect, however, I do think some of the comments above are a little unfair. Minny&#8217;s sections are nowhere near as &#8216;non-standard&#8217; as Aibileen&#8217;s, while even Skeeter&#8217;s contain many colloquialisms and Southernisms. In other words, it isn&#8217;t as clear-cut a divide as some of the criticisms above have suggested. And while it is true that the Southern accent cuts across race, it would be naive to pretend that a black maid in the &#8217;60s would not sound palpably different from her white employers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Onyx</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-152444</link> <dc:creator>Onyx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:32:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-152444</guid> <description>Hello Lily05,
I didn&#039;t miss the Skeeter reference. I chose not to answer. Black people are allowed to do that now, you know.
Sorry, where are my manners. For the remainder of my post I&#039;ll just ignore the hysterics in your post because I realize you love the story. I mean, you REALLY love the story. That&#039;s a big part of the problem with the novel, and folks reaction to it, like yourself.
Because when the innuendo, negative idealogy and generations of demeaning depictions of the black culture are gladly accepted as &quot;taken very seriously&quot; in a novel that cracks jokes about the black culture at just about every turn, truly its got best seller written all over it.
It&#039;s no wonder then, that Ablene Cooper or those close to her filed a lawsuit.
I look at the lawsuit as a way to make publicly known that enough is enough. That having a character with her likeness and a similar name who goes to church, yet still wonders if people think she used “black magic” to wish a venereal disease on another woman is not funny, but offensive.
In addition, that telling someone “don’t drink coffee or you’ll turn colored” is not funny, it’s offensive.
An it certainly doesn&#039;t, as you say &quot;take the injustice, wrongness, etc. very seriously.&quot;
And while it’s admirable to instill positive affirmations within an employer’s young child, it’s a coward who’ll ignore her best friend’s children, especially children who witness the violent, physical abuse of their mother on a daily basis.
But of course, if that abused woman is simply the “sassy” maid stereotype, then the abuse may be easily overlooked.
It is also the height of offense to compare brown skin to a roach, especially with more than enough images during the period segregation was legal that demeaned the black culture.
And true enough, Ablene Cooper may not win her lawsuit. But at least the lawsuit may open a dialogue on what constitutes offensive stereotype in a minority character, versus paying homage.
You getting all this down Lily? For as much as you &quot;love&quot; this novel, some of use recognize it for what it really is.
But fear not. After seeing how bad the trailer for the movie is, I think once you see the movie you&#039;ll realize the joke&#039;s on ALL OF US. Because segregation is played for laughs, with the white characters as ditzy sit-com wives.
You might do well to join the real world and take a look at the shame and courage from when segregation was at its height, unless you want to continue to wallow in denial and wax nostalgic over the pages of The Help:
http://acriticalreviewofthehelp.wordpress.com/wall-of-shame-and-courage/</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Lily05,</p><p>I didn&#8217;t miss the Skeeter reference. I chose not to answer. Black people are allowed to do that now, you know.</p><p>Sorry, where are my manners. For the remainder of my post I&#8217;ll just ignore the hysterics in your post because I realize you love the story. I mean, you REALLY love the story. That&#8217;s a big part of the problem with the novel, and folks reaction to it, like yourself.</p><p>Because when the innuendo, negative idealogy and generations of demeaning depictions of the black culture are gladly accepted as &#8220;taken very seriously&#8221; in a novel that cracks jokes about the black culture at just about every turn, truly its got best seller written all over it.</p><p>It&#8217;s no wonder then, that Ablene Cooper or those close to her filed a lawsuit.</p><p>I look at the lawsuit as a way to make publicly known that enough is enough. That having a character with her likeness and a similar name who goes to church, yet still wonders if people think she used “black magic” to wish a venereal disease on another woman is not funny, but offensive.<br
/> In addition, that telling someone “don’t drink coffee or you’ll turn colored” is not funny, it’s offensive.</p><p>An it certainly doesn&#8217;t, as you say &#8220;take the injustice, wrongness, etc. very seriously.&#8221;</p><p>And while it’s admirable to instill positive affirmations within an employer’s young child, it’s a coward who’ll ignore her best friend’s children, especially children who witness the violent, physical abuse of their mother on a daily basis.</p><p>But of course, if that abused woman is simply the “sassy” maid stereotype, then the abuse may be easily overlooked.</p><p>It is also the height of offense to compare brown skin to a roach, especially with more than enough images during the period segregation was legal that demeaned the black culture.</p><p>And true enough, Ablene Cooper may not win her lawsuit. But at least the lawsuit may open a dialogue on what constitutes offensive stereotype in a minority character, versus paying homage.</p><p>You getting all this down Lily? For as much as you &#8220;love&#8221; this novel, some of use recognize it for what it really is.<br
/> But fear not. After seeing how bad the trailer for the movie is, I think once you see the movie you&#8217;ll realize the joke&#8217;s on ALL OF US. Because segregation is played for laughs, with the white characters as ditzy sit-com wives.</p><p>You might do well to join the real world and take a look at the shame and courage from when segregation was at its height, unless you want to continue to wallow in denial and wax nostalgic over the pages of The Help:<br
/> <a
href="http://acriticalreviewofthehelp.wordpress.com/wall-of-shame-and-courage/" rel="nofollow">http://acriticalreviewofthehelp.wordpress.com/wall-of-shame-and-courage/</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: lily05</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-151796</link> <dc:creator>lily05</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 06:59:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-151796</guid> <description>Anne Hayes - Skeeter is short for mosquito - it&#039;s in the book - Eugenia&#039;s brother Carlton likens her to a mosquito all long,spindly and skinny as a baby, and her physical characteristics are frequently referred to as a point of difference, which the novel seems to be about - imagined, metaphorical and surface differences. Onyx, you must have missed the constant reference to Eugenia Phelan as a mosquito &quot;Skeeter&quot; (insect) in your headlong rush to see more insult and injury lurking behind every sentence. It would seem to suit your theory of ongoing persecution and conspiracy to consider her and every other &quot;white&quot; person a bloodsucker, no doubt! Nadia, you really do have to read the book to make comment- you seem to have gotten the wrong end of the stick entirely. There is nothing gratuitously humourous or callously caricatured in this story. It takes the injustice, the wrongness, the encultured and entrenched racism and &quot;man&#039;s inhumanity to man&quot; very seriously.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne Hayes &#8211; Skeeter is short for mosquito &#8211; it&#8217;s in the book &#8211; Eugenia&#8217;s brother Carlton likens her to a mosquito all long,spindly and skinny as a baby, and her physical characteristics are frequently referred to as a point of difference, which the novel seems to be about &#8211; imagined, metaphorical and surface differences. Onyx, you must have missed the constant reference to Eugenia Phelan as a mosquito &#8220;Skeeter&#8221; (insect) in your headlong rush to see more insult and injury lurking behind every sentence. It would seem to suit your theory of ongoing persecution and conspiracy to consider her and every other &#8220;white&#8221; person a bloodsucker, no doubt! Nadia, you really do have to read the book to make comment- you seem to have gotten the wrong end of the stick entirely. There is nothing gratuitously humourous or callously caricatured in this story. It takes the injustice, the wrongness, the encultured and entrenched racism and &#8220;man&#8217;s inhumanity to man&#8221; very seriously.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: onyx</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-148393</link> <dc:creator>onyx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 01:42:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-148393</guid> <description>Hello Dorene,
Thanks for your post. Your sentiment was brought up on another board, and I think it&#039;s picking up steam.
That is, while there are quite a few readers proclaiming how much love there was between employers and their &quot;help&quot;  (and some of the testimonials are quite touching) those who identify themselves as former domestics speak of no similar affection, or in the large numbers as those who laud Stockett&#039;s novel.
And I believe that&#039;s the problem. So much was regulated by segregation, that now, years later, the controlling of how past employer/employee relationships as well as black/white relations were perceived differ greatly.
Thankfully, there&#039;s enough recorded and documented history to show that affection had nothing to do with winning civil rights. It took blood, sweat and tears. The ultimate toll was the senseless murders of some courageous individuals, both black and white during the struggle for freedom.
OT:
**best non-fiction book I&#039;ve read all year: Isabel Wilkerson&#039;s &quot;The Warmth of Other Suns&quot; which chronicles the great migration of African Americans from the south **</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dorene,</p><p>Thanks for your post. Your sentiment was brought up on another board, and I think it&#8217;s picking up steam.</p><p>That is, while there are quite a few readers proclaiming how much love there was between employers and their &#8220;help&#8221;  (and some of the testimonials are quite touching) those who identify themselves as former domestics speak of no similar affection, or in the large numbers as those who laud Stockett&#8217;s novel.</p><p>And I believe that&#8217;s the problem. So much was regulated by segregation, that now, years later, the controlling of how past employer/employee relationships as well as black/white relations were perceived differ greatly.</p><p>Thankfully, there&#8217;s enough recorded and documented history to show that affection had nothing to do with winning civil rights. It took blood, sweat and tears. The ultimate toll was the senseless murders of some courageous individuals, both black and white during the struggle for freedom.</p><p>OT:<br
/> **best non-fiction book I&#8217;ve read all year: Isabel Wilkerson&#8217;s &#8220;The Warmth of Other Suns&#8221; which chronicles the great migration of African Americans from the south **</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dorene</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-148327</link> <dc:creator>Dorene</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:14:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-148327</guid> <description>I was going to read this book.  But in memory of my grandmother, I can&#039;t.  She was a domestic worker.  Please believe me when I tell you that she DID NOT like or love her white employers or their children.  I am sure white people would like to think that but it is a lie.  Nine times out of ten, they were just doing what they had to do to survive and take care of their families. Corey, Onyx, and Nadia are on point.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to read this book.  But in memory of my grandmother, I can&#8217;t.  She was a domestic worker.  Please believe me when I tell you that she DID NOT like or love her white employers or their children.  I am sure white people would like to think that but it is a lie.  Nine times out of ten, they were just doing what they had to do to survive and take care of their families. Corey, Onyx, and Nadia are on point.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Raelene Heffernan</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-147622</link> <dc:creator>Raelene Heffernan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 06:39:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-147622</guid> <description>I loved this book. Probably the best one we have had at our book club.  Also the comments expressed above are quite varied.  Very interesting.  When you enjoy a book as much as I did this one you expect everyone will enjoy it.  Can&#039;t wait to discuss it at our next meeting.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved this book. Probably the best one we have had at our book club.  Also the comments expressed above are quite varied.  Very interesting.  When you enjoy a book as much as I did this one you expect everyone will enjoy it.  Can&#8217;t wait to discuss it at our next meeting.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anne Hayes</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-147091</link> <dc:creator>Anne Hayes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:31:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-147091</guid> <description>Can someone please tell this ignorant Englishwoman – what is Skeeter short for? A Mosquito or something else? Many thanks, Anne hayes</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please tell this ignorant Englishwoman – what is Skeeter short for? A Mosquito or something else? Many thanks, Anne hayes</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dianne</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-146801</link> <dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 15:08:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-146801</guid> <description>Just finished reading The Help. I grew up in the south in the sixties and here&#039;s what I think -- It portrays southern whites in the sixties as (for the most part) pretentious, bigoted racists, a portrayal that is biased and inaccurate. Naturally, it’s on the best seller list. It panders to the base human emotions of wanting to feel superior because, of course, the reader is not bigoted or racist. Unlike the author, I grew up in the deep south in the sixties. Most people I knew, white or black, were doing the best they could in a region with a lot of economic and social problems. As is true in any region, there were a few bad apples, but they were a tiny minority. I never knew anyone as mean, shallow or racist as Miss Hilly and her coterie. The real problem with this novel (it’s a novel, not history) is that it encourages regional hatreds and mistrust. Its appeal, besides being sensational, is that it allows people to assume that they are morally superior. We read about obnoxious people and then feel good about denouncing them.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just finished reading The Help. I grew up in the south in the sixties and here&#8217;s what I think &#8212; It portrays southern whites in the sixties as (for the most part) pretentious, bigoted racists, a portrayal that is biased and inaccurate. Naturally, it’s on the best seller list. It panders to the base human emotions of wanting to feel superior because, of course, the reader is not bigoted or racist. Unlike the author, I grew up in the deep south in the sixties. Most people I knew, white or black, were doing the best they could in a region with a lot of economic and social problems. As is true in any region, there were a few bad apples, but they were a tiny minority. I never knew anyone as mean, shallow or racist as Miss Hilly and her coterie. The real problem with this novel (it’s a novel, not history) is that it encourages regional hatreds and mistrust. Its appeal, besides being sensational, is that it allows people to assume that they are morally superior. We read about obnoxious people and then feel good about denouncing them.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Claire</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-146109</link> <dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 00:03:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-146109</guid> <description>I LOVED THIS BOOK I COULDN&#039;T GET ENOUGH!! SEQUEL???</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVED THIS BOOK I COULDN&#8217;T GET ENOUGH!! SEQUEL???</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Donna</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-145863</link> <dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:50:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-145863</guid> <description>It was difficult to accept the authenticity of Kathryn Stockett&#039;s voice after wading through the first chapter.  To compare this with a wonderful book such as &quot;The Joy Luck Club&quot;, a pleasurable read from the first page just does not compare. I&#039;d squarely place this book into the &quot;Eat Love Pray&quot; bin where all the hype does not warrant all the attention given.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was difficult to accept the authenticity of Kathryn Stockett&#8217;s voice after wading through the first chapter.  To compare this with a wonderful book such as &#8220;The Joy Luck Club&#8221;, a pleasurable read from the first page just does not compare. I&#8217;d squarely place this book into the &#8220;Eat Love Pray&#8221; bin where all the hype does not warrant all the attention given.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Christy</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-144823</link> <dc:creator>Christy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:42:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-144823</guid> <description>I find it ironic that a member from the same group that economically oppressed black folks -- and made money off of our oppression now gets to do it again by writing a book about that same oppression. Isn&#039;t life a hoot.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it ironic that a member from the same group that economically oppressed black folks &#8212; and made money off of our oppression now gets to do it again by writing a book about that same oppression. Isn&#8217;t life a hoot.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Onyx</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-144586</link> <dc:creator>Onyx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 14:29:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-144586</guid> <description>Hi Colleen,
&quot;many African American accents, for lack of a better word, are hackneyed and full of broken English so I liked the way the author presented all the voices&quot;
Just like I wouldn&#039;t presume that many Canadians, for lack of a better word use &quot;Aye?&quot; after the end of each sentence, your post reflects just what is quite frustrating and rather sterotypical about Stockett&#039;s novel. There&#039;s no diversity in the black women, save for the ones closer to white, like Lulabelle, Yule May Crookle (no naps in her hair, signifying &quot;good hair&quot;) or Gretchen who conveniently all speak without a &quot;southern&quot; accent or as you put it so indelicately, &quot;hackneyed and full of broken English&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Colleen,</p><p>&#8220;many African American accents, for lack of a better word, are hackneyed and full of broken English so I liked the way the author presented all the voices&#8221;</p><p>Just like I wouldn&#8217;t presume that many Canadians, for lack of a better word use &#8220;Aye?&#8221; after the end of each sentence, your post reflects just what is quite frustrating and rather sterotypical about Stockett&#8217;s novel. There&#8217;s no diversity in the black women, save for the ones closer to white, like Lulabelle, Yule May Crookle (no naps in her hair, signifying &#8220;good hair&#8221;) or Gretchen who conveniently all speak without a &#8220;southern&#8221; accent or as you put it so indelicately, &#8220;hackneyed and full of broken English&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Colleen</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-144368</link> <dc:creator>Colleen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 04:19:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-144368</guid> <description>I loved this book and tomorrow our book club is discussing it. There were over 460 holds on the book at the library when it was selected and the wait was more than worth it. Everyone I recommended this book to, lovvvvveeeeddd it as well! I am so excited to see the movie. I read many of the comments and as a Canadian who hears few accents aside from British and East Indian, I found the writing of the different voices helped define the different characters. To those of us with a naiive ear to southern accents and black speech, many African American accents, for lack of a better word, are hackneyed and full of broken English so I liked the way the author presented all the voices. We talk so fast in the north that the writing helped slow down the tempo which is how southerns speak, slow with a drawl, not all, but that&#039;s where it comes from, doesn&#039;t it. Loved it all!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved this book and tomorrow our book club is discussing it. There were over 460 holds on the book at the library when it was selected and the wait was more than worth it. Everyone I recommended this book to, lovvvvveeeeddd it as well! I am so excited to see the movie. I read many of the comments and as a Canadian who hears few accents aside from British and East Indian, I found the writing of the different voices helped define the different characters. To those of us with a naiive ear to southern accents and black speech, many African American accents, for lack of a better word, are hackneyed and full of broken English so I liked the way the author presented all the voices. We talk so fast in the north that the writing helped slow down the tempo which is how southerns speak, slow with a drawl, not all, but that&#8217;s where it comes from, doesn&#8217;t it. Loved it all!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: P. J. Grath</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-142695</link> <dc:creator>P. J. Grath</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:52:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-142695</guid> <description>Here&#039;s the movie I want to see: a movie with all the people here on this site talking to each other--black, white, born and immigrant Americans, men and women, Southerners and Northerners. I have spent half the day reading these comments and am quite overcome at this point. To me this exchange of thoughts and feelings is  more complex, more fascinating, deeper and infinitely more important to the future of our country and our world than the book that touched off the conversation, and I am grateful to everyone who posted an opinion here, but especially to those who have hung in with the conversation and responded personally to others&#039; comments. It isn&#039;t easy to stay in conversation when there is so much disagreement. If we can do it, there&#039;s hope for us yet.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the movie I want to see: a movie with all the people here on this site talking to each other&#8211;black, white, born and immigrant Americans, men and women, Southerners and Northerners. I have spent half the day reading these comments and am quite overcome at this point. To me this exchange of thoughts and feelings is  more complex, more fascinating, deeper and infinitely more important to the future of our country and our world than the book that touched off the conversation, and I am grateful to everyone who posted an opinion here, but especially to those who have hung in with the conversation and responded personally to others&#8217; comments. It isn&#8217;t easy to stay in conversation when there is so much disagreement. If we can do it, there&#8217;s hope for us yet.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Onyx</title><link>http://calitreview.com/2526/comment-page-4#comment-142275</link> <dc:creator>Onyx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 03:59:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://calitreview.com/?p=2526#comment-142275</guid> <description>Hi Jade,
Thanks for your comment. You&#039;re probably aware by now that Kathryn Stockett is being sued by a real life maid who works for the author&#039;s brother and sister in law. The woman&#039;s name is Ablene Cooper. More on the lawsuit can be found here:
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/17/family-maid-files-suit-against-author-of-the-help/
Not only is the article interesting, but the readers comments are quite insightful.
I&#039;d like to recommend one more site. A blogger by the name of Macon D asked this question and a number commentors responded:
&quot;Here’s something that I as a white person can never really know — what’s it like for non-white children when they have to sit through an education system that still normalizes and glorifies white people and white ways, more or less all of the time? A system that also still denigrates the contributions and lived experiences of people of color, more or less all of the time?&quot;
http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2010/07/force-non-white-students-to-read-great.html
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Hello P. Archer,
On page 353 of the novel, Stuart reveals to Skeeter that he drove all the way to San Francisco to see Patricia in order to get her &quot;out of his head&quot;. They had it out, and when he came  back to Jackson he to let Skeeter know that his feelings for Patricia were dead and gone.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jade,</p><p>Thanks for your comment. You&#8217;re probably aware by now that Kathryn Stockett is being sued by a real life maid who works for the author&#8217;s brother and sister in law. The woman&#8217;s name is Ablene Cooper. More on the lawsuit can be found here:</p><p><a
href="http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/17/family-maid-files-suit-against-author-of-the-help/" rel="nofollow">http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/17/family-maid-files-suit-against-author-of-the-help/</a></p><p>Not only is the article interesting, but the readers comments are quite insightful.</p><p>I&#8217;d like to recommend one more site. A blogger by the name of Macon D asked this question and a number commentors responded:</p><p>&#8220;Here’s something that I as a white person can never really know — what’s it like for non-white children when they have to sit through an education system that still normalizes and glorifies white people and white ways, more or less all of the time? A system that also still denigrates the contributions and lived experiences of people of color, more or less all of the time?&#8221;</p><p><a
href="http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2010/07/force-non-white-students-to-read-great.html" rel="nofollow">http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2010/07/force-non-white-students-to-read-great.html</a></p><p>******</p><p>Hello P. Archer,</p><p>On page 353 of the novel, Stuart reveals to Skeeter that he drove all the way to San Francisco to see Patricia in order to get her &#8220;out of his head&#8221;. They had it out, and when he came  back to Jackson he to let Skeeter know that his feelings for Patricia were dead and gone.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
